I found this and it looks legit. I was wondering if anyone knows what program this was from? [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvTxSZ9Y7D4"]Aikido real street attack - YouTube[/ame]
Man, it's a good thing that guy knew aikido, otherwise those muggers would have beaten him up three times! And another three times in slow motion!
Well, what do you mean by 'legit'? Something about this doesn't really seem like a 'street fight' unless muggers have been taking their cues from kung fu flicks.
This is from the documentary series "Samurai Spirit". It's hosted by Nicholas Pettas who is a Kyokushin champion and teacher in Japan. The show focuses on different popular Japanese martial arts ranging from Judo to Iaido. This clip is from the Aikido episode. The scene is obviously scripted, but the purpose of the show is not to test Aikido (although Nicholas says he will), but to tell about the history and explain the theory of Aikido. It's a really good Aikido documentary, and almost swayed me into thinking that the art was worth a try (I came to my senses later though ). Samurai Spirit is one of my favourite MA documentaries. Nicholas Pettas at first appears like he'll be a Bill Duff type of person, but he isn't at all, and is actually a likeable person. You can watch the clips on youtube, but since I don't want the episodes to be removed from YT I won't post them on this forum, so Google-fu them.
Overly dramatized, poor commitment to attack and basically a faulty & bog standard "martial arts in jeans" demo
It's rubbish. As usual. There's no way a 'professional MMA' fighter is going to launch into a roundhouse to the head from there and there's no way a 'professional MMA' fighter is going to tap when someone has a grip on them like that and there's no way two experienced martial artists are going to attack from the same direction. The first thing you do is circle around the solo guy. Tripe.
I don't have any experience with mma, but I can say what I saw from that guy wasn't impressive. I do however have experience with karate, and that guy wasn't doing it.
That being said, the Aikidoka in the clip, Ryuichi Omori, seems to have an interesting Aikido club. The documentary says he teaches at the Kokushikan University, so maybe Aikidoka in the know can fill us in on the style. The training seemed really alive from what is generally thought of as Aikido. In the docu they were sparring, one with a rubber knife the other without, and the throws seemed quite legit. I'm stingy when it comes to saying things like that. Far better then the "wrist-grab" attack that other Aikido demostrations normally show.
They lost me when the "Professional Fighter" threw a high crescent kick from far away with no set up at all.
I had asked Koyo why Aikido guy doesn't use leg in his throws as Judo guy does. I never got that answer. Does anybody know the answer? http://cdn2.judoinfo.com/images/animations/blue/uchimata.htm http://cdn2.judoinfo.com/images/animations/blue/hanegoshi.htm http://cdn2.judoinfo.com/images/animations/blue/osotogari.htm http://cdn2.judoinfo.com/images/animations/blue/ouchigari.htm
Those were not real attacks at all for one thing. For another they did the typical demo routine where after the nage starts his technique they quit attacking or resisting. Once they were on the ground they didn't even try to get away or fight back. The 2:1 attack was very poor, the second attacker didn't even try to move around and get to the nage. They didn't even try to separate and attack from both sides. As far as typical Aikido demos go it wasn't bad, but it wasn't at all real or anything like a street fight. What made you think it was legit?
Hmm..... interesting question. I'm guessing the set ups are entirely different? Would love to hear the differences from someone who's trained in both.
