possible hernia but hard to diagnose

Discussion in 'Injuries and Prevention' started by Tom bayley, Aug 14, 2019.

  1. Tom bayley

    Tom bayley Valued Member

    About 15 years ago I had an accident hang-gliding. I servery tore the muscles on the inside of my right leg. At the time I felt something very unpleasant in one of the big mussels near the insertion points in the groin.I was left with pain and weakness in the groin. (went from training 20 hours a week to just one).

    5 years later I had a patch inserted for a suspected inguinal hernia. It did not remove the pain but stabilised the groin a bit.

    Over last ten years the leg has stabilised and it only hurts when I annoy the leg by putting high load through it. i cant do low stance movement or kicking heavy bags.

    One month ago I was doing 30 kg leg presses with very bent knees (sort equivalent of a deep squat but with a light weight). Something bad happened.

    I now have chronic pain in the right leg and groin extending to the right testicle.

    I am on medication for possible epididymitis. I have scans lined up. I never really had a firm diagnosis for the original injury. I suspect that it might actually be a non standard variant of a hernia.

    I wonder if any one has had anything similar or if has any suggestions about what it could be?
  2. Frodocious

    Frodocious She who MUST be obeyed! Moderator Supporter

    Can't help with the injury, but I know there have been some issues with the hernia mesh patches causing people chronic pain after they were fitted. It might be something to do with that.
  3. Xue Sheng

    Xue Sheng All weight is underside

    Had something similar, but it was from Arthritis in both hips and my knees

    Recommendation, see a doctor
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  4. Tom bayley

    Tom bayley Valued Member

    Many thanks for your comments

    i am aware of the potential problems with the patches. I am keeping that in mind but i dont think that is the cause. To me the current pain feels too much like the original pain I felt before getting the patch.

    I am seeing doctors - and have had scans on hip No artritus no signs of physical damage in or around joint.

    I am beginning to think that it might be a non standerd hernia because it has been hard to diagnose - either a rarer form of intestinal hernia or a some other hernia where in stead of the intestine being pulled out and trapped by the mussels some other tissue has been pulled in and trapped.

    just wondered if any one has any experience or advise in getting an accurate of diagnosis on a condition that is hard to detect or is rare.
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  5. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    Your best bet is to see a specialist who knows what they're talking about, as your doing.

    Unless you have medical training, what you think sounds rational and what it really is can mile's apart.
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  6. Grond

    Grond Valued Member

    I'm just going to put this out there but nerve damage can be a pretty obvious common side effect of a lot of striking training. I know it applies to the hands and arms so I'm assuming it applies to your legs and hips. If the pain is CNS pain from that general area, you might have a very difficult to diagnose nerve injury that regular treatment probably won't be able to identify. Your nerves might be suffering. You said you "can't do" heavy bag kicks and stances, did you mean it's impossible, or it just hurts a lot ? People can overcome nerve pain (especially as the nerves die off completely..), but not structural damage like a hernia, tendon/ligament injury etc.

    Come to speak of it, the pain you're describing to me sounds like the time I got shingles in my hip. I had to walk with a cane for a month because varicella zoster re-invaded that nerve cluster. Needless to say, boxing was verboten for that timeframe.
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  7. Tom bayley

    Tom bayley Valued Member

    I can physically do the movement but I pay for it in chronic pain afterwards. I can cause pain in two ways

    Kicking a heavy bag or solidly held bag where the strike does not deflect and the full reflective force goes back though the leg, though the pelvic girdle and into the ground at the standing foot.

    demonstrating a broom handle sweep. I drop on the good leg, extend out the bad one and spin through. The leg and hip extend/open thorough the movement. this puts a load under tension though the muscles in the groin. If I do this 2 or 3 times I am limping to compensate for the pain for a week of two afterwards. To a lesser extent I can get in to long stances if I take my time. But i cannot move into long stances at speed.
  8. Tom bayley

    Tom bayley Valued Member

    Totally agree and the internet does not help !
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  9. Xue Sheng

    Xue Sheng All weight is underside

    When I was diagnosed with a herniated disk, they found it using a CT Scan that my orthopedic doc wanted me to get.. So I imagine if you get a CT or an MRI they could diagnose it fairly easily, if the person reading it was an orthopedic doctor.
  10. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    Radiologists review the scans and then write a report to your surgeon/doctor, depending on what is occuring it won't always be clear on scans, plus theirs a lot of natural variation to confuse matters.

    Also orthopedic surgeons "do bones and spines" a normal hernia is soft gastric tissue poking where it shouldn't be.
  11. Xue Sheng

    Xue Sheng All weight is underside

    Forgive me, its been a long day, and I'm on the edge of a migraine . My mistake. Don't know why my brain added disk after hernia (Herniated Disk) when I read this today...forget what I said. I was apparently in La la land at that time. The scary part is I answered this before....and knew what it was then,,,
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