CKava amigo, I'm glad that I'm worthy of an argument with you, but I've moved on to other things. All I ever wanted to know was whether or not, when Pretty Nurse WryDolphin has a patient in a hospital bed who wants his magic crystals or carrots, should Nurse WryDolphin give him his crystals or carrots. That's all. That's really all I wanted to know. I never cared about anything else. My question can be answered in one sentence. And you did answer it, so I've moved on to other things. I'll see you elsewhere now. You should come by the Aikido forum sometime.