abstaining and mma

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by Big Mike, Dec 26, 2013.

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  1. Big Mike

    Big Mike New Member

    hi yall im relatively new to mma. ive been studying some of mantak chias books recently and have slowly started to take time with some of the exercises. im wondering if anyone else does anything similar and has had success. i can elaborate on what exactly im doing. i just joined this forum and dont want to seem like a troll seriously just wondering if anyone can point me in a better direction.
     
  2. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    Welcome to MAP.
     
  3. inthespirit

    inthespirit ignant

    Hey Big Mike, welcome to MAP!

    What's the connection between Mantak Chia and MMA? If I understand correctly you are an MMA practitioner whose trying out Mantak Chia's stuff?

    Personally, I would not recommend studying these sorts of things without someone who knows how to do it and teach it. Some of these sorts of methods can, over time, create habits which may affect your mental state negatively. If you do get negative effects, it's best to have contact with someone who knows how to resolve these sorts of issues or ideally guide you from the outset in a way which will avoid such problems.

    What is it that you hope to gain from such practice? If it's really something you wish to invest your time and energy in to, you may as well find a reputable teacher or school.
     
  4. John R. Gambit

    John R. Gambit The 'Rona Wrangler

    Welcome to MAP. :) And I have no idea what is being discussed here, but I look forward to figuring it out.
     
  5. Big Mike

    Big Mike New Member

    Sorry for being so cryptic. I thought this sort of thing was common among martial artists like when football players are advised not to release before a game. So far all that can be said of my refraining is that i cant sink any lower than i already am. it is sort of stabilizing ive found. ive also noted somewhat of an increase in energy and incidentally some hostility(it was well founded hostility tho). its also easier for me to socialize. ive mostly been practicing mantak chias big draw to take the edge off of any lustful thoughts. that is basically a deep breath taken and held for 9 seconds while clenching and unclenching the perineum. there are other exercises im trying to get the hang of but i dont practice them regularly. id be happy to answer any questions and even happier if someone knows what im talking about.
     
  6. Big Mike

    Big Mike New Member

    At inthespirit, i shouldnt have said im relatively new to mma. the only martial arts training ive had was judo for a few years before my teenage years. i wont be able to afford any instruction for a month or more. ive been having doubts about what im doing but the result is undeniable so ive kept with it. if i were experienced enough to give advice i would recomend it. :Angel:
     
  7. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    You mean abstaining from sex? It's much easier to understand if you say the words :p

    I don't abstain from sex, until maybe three days before the fight, and even them I'm "releasing" :L


    You can go the Michael McDonald way if you want, he's abstained for two years now, but then again he's on a two fight losing streak.

    Chuck Liddell was infamous for sleeping around and he was world champ.
     
  8. Southpaw535

    Southpaw535 Well-Known Member Moderator Supporter

    Well if this was a long winded way to ask if you should have sex before training/fighting then the wives tale that you shouldn't "release" before a fight has been debunked. If I remember right there's actually some benefits from all the hormones that are involved.

    I mean I wouldn't recommend getting out the branding irons and gerbils the night before a fight but the idea that you shouldn't orgasm before a fight has no basis in anything scientific. If it makes you feel better personally and gives you more of a mental edge then by all means give it a crack.
     
  9. Ero-Sennin

    Ero-Sennin Well-Known Member Supporter

    Ah, the abstinence training method straight from the first Rocky movie!

    There are studies in the fitness world that hint at masturbation stopped just before the point of climax can boost testosterone levels for a workout, or just watching pornography for 15 minutes. I guess you could add that extremely frustrating act as a pre workout routine. It all seems like lot of frustration for a questionable benefit to me really.

    #notashamedofbeingfrank
     
  10. Giovanni

    Giovanni Well-Known Member Supporter

    the great thing about lustful thought? they're full of lust.
     
  11. Big Mike

    Big Mike New Member

    lol michael mcdonald. yes i mean a 100% no sex no fap. the no sex is my own fault tho. ive read a lot of personal accounts and they surprised me. i guess ill just keep researching. thanks for the input guys.
     
  12. Southpaw535

    Southpaw535 Well-Known Member Moderator Supporter

    To go with the Mcdonald thing, Ronda Rousey apparently has sex the night before a fight and look how she's doing.
     
  13. inthespirit

    inthespirit ignant


    No worries man. Yeah, what you described does not sound too bad, but I'd be careful with Mantak Chia's stuff, a lot of it is not the sort of thing to be learned from a book, yet alone published for mass consumption. You can see some of the negative effects people have by checking out the reviews for his books on Amazon. Can induce psychosis and such, if I recall correctly one of the terms is 'kundalini-syndrome'. Though something like what you describe sounds like a pretty straightforward PC exercise, so shouldn't be too dodgy.
     
  14. Nojon

    Nojon Tha mo bhàta-foluaimein

    LOL!
     
  15. Big Mike

    Big Mike New Member

    Thnks spirit ill checkout th reviews
     
  16. Giovanni

    Giovanni Well-Known Member Supporter

    Do you even have this problem? Like do you have a stable of ladies or men just wanting to have sex before a fight?
     
  17. Big Mike

    Big Mike New Member

    ya gay?:pinocchio:
     
  18. aaradia

    aaradia Choy Li Fut and Yang Tai Chi Chuan Student Moderator Supporter

    "Ya"????

    What is the meaning of this post? I don't get it.
     
  19. Southpaw535

    Southpaw535 Well-Known Member Moderator Supporter

    A nose like that would be useful though
     
  20. Big Mike

    Big Mike New Member

    That was directed at giovanni. I apologize for my hostility i just found out per some amazon reviews that the books i was reading were horrible 4 beginners and horrible in general except for reference. I may have damaged myself. I found some recomended literature on the subject tho if any is interested.
     
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