I agree with you in general but did Bruce Lee's JKD add any value to the arts he trained in? ....Bruce Lee is the Godwin's Law of Martial Arts, isn't he?
@Bubble99: Do you train anything yourself? If not, you should at least try something out once or twice. I'm not even saying: Do something on a regular basis; just take a look at something, that includes joint locks, because I really think, lots of your questions would answer themselves then and some of your comments wouldn't be like they were before.
As much as I like bruce he's overly used as a reference. I also think the general gist of his jkd philosophy is pretty obvious for anyone who's trained in a variety of arts. You use what you found effective from each system, but to do that you actually have to train each system to find what works best for you and you also need to learn the accompanying fundamentals and conditioning for that technique to work. If I take everything I've learned and package it as an art and only teach what I like best from my martial arts studies my students will be lacking the solid foundation I had. To properly apply Bruce's "Tao" you need to have your own foundation, you can't use someone else's. That's why I think many jkd students fail to come close to the level of bruce lee.
But most people don't like pain. If you are twisting or bending the wrist,arm, fingers so on people will freeze up and comply. Just little bit of pain and if they resist they could get injuries. You can see some of pain these people are in. [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsevxKzu-Ck"]Gooseneck Wrist Lock to Wrist Wrap Hold - YouTube[/ame] [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OuduuFHNcI"]112 Hand pressure points sampler - YouTube[/ame] [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdx1yfkw9Jg"]How to do wrist locks - YouTube[/ame] There was one video but I can't seem to find it.The guy was in lot pain. So what is point to test it to see how people respond? If the guy was on drugs or a very high pain tolerance he would get injury to not comply. These guys probably would want to go to ground to avoid pain and possibility injuries if they resist. http://www.elonpendulum.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/IMG_18041.jpg http://aikido.by/photo/certification_2013/aikido_certification_4.jpg Now unless they are on drugs or have a very high pain tolerance most likely they would injury them self. But in street defense some one rapping or attacking you the thought of fighting fair goes out the window. But like Docholiday said grabbing some one swinging their arms or fist lighting speed will be hard to do.If they are big,strong and move faster than you getting grab would be hard to do. You would have to be very good at what you do.:cry:
Joint manipulation is painful but without looking at your videos I'm guessing they are acting, lying, pretending. The technique isn't really the issue though. Being in a position to apply it is. That's what you're not understanding
No, they will usually try and get away from the pain. And that doesn't work by freezing, but by going "with the lock", which makes standing locks so difficult. EDIT: Seriously, you should actually *try* something once, instead of theorizing all the time.
I don't think it'd help. These people have you believing you're superhuman. To the O/P. Think of martial arts as food. The techniques are the ingredients. Now everyone can cook but some people do it really well and get called chefs. Some people still cook but they remain a simple cook. You need to find instruction that tastes rather than follows a recipe blindly. Keeps trying it as they go This is getting weird even for me but I'm trying to get a simple message across but as yet you haven't got it. It's not what you can do but how you do it?!?!?!?!
If they really wanted to create something new based on Aikido, they should have emphasized the strengths of Aikido rather than the perceived weaknesses from training. I don't know, maybe do an entire demonstration ONLY with multiple attackers: 2-on-1, 3-on-1, 2-on-2, 3-on-2, 3-on-3 and add in training weapons. If they could pull that off decently, more Aiki to them :heart:
You know what I'd love to see in Aikido? Rugby tackles. The way of least resistance. They do look kinda swish to be fair.
I've always wondered just how easily one causes no injury whilst downing an opponent's body onto the concrete at speed.:evil: "Traditional" Aikido training- what's traditional,the way the founder trained his students or the way most of his lineal descendants today train theirs?
If some one is attacking you I'm sure you going to do a hard take down and strikes to the head. If you are training I'm sure you are more scared of injury of not doing proper warm up like sprain or muscle tear. I got injured doing Yoga and going on treadmill going too hard and not doing a warm up. I got more injuries in high school with bullies and people that think they are smart.
I have about 30 of Chosun Ninja videos. Anyways I don't live in Los Angeles so it is not like I'm going to join his school. Despite of what some people think of him.:bang: Anyways I will reply to other comments tomorrow got to go to bed.
Chosun ninja/DTG Karate/whateverhescallednow has shown some really cool hapkido/tkd/karate type strikes in his videos, but 95% of them hes a pseudo-humble victim, of people calling him out on his nonsense. He contradicts himself in his later videos...do a search over at bullshido.com I love his "heirloom" ninja-to thats identical to one I bought in Denver Colorado at a gun show for 8$
We were discussing this style when I first stated posting on MAP. So it's not that new. As for self defence? Not a new claim either. And any decent Aikidoka can up the tempo. There is nothing new in this "style".
And people react with cries of horror when an Aikidoka actually hits someone. Can't have that on the Internet.
