[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx8IfbmwXFM"]YouTube - Part 3 of 3: Traditional Aikido - William Coyle[/ame] Finally Part 3. The Bear.
I am the one presenting the demo and it is for shihan Hepburn who appears at the end in T shirt and jeans. regards koyo thanks again Bear
Bill, I enjoyed the vids very much. My personal view is that working with a kendoka or Iaidoka is a fantastic way to improve your weapon work. At the dojo I was taught Aikido Iaido, Kendo and Jodo were taught side by side with many of the students practising various combinations of them. Trying to throw a rokudan Iaido is a good way to test your timing and kuzushi, no aikibunny falling over from them. Shihan Hepburn's instruction is a good insight into weapons work and how tsugi ashi is used in the cuts, many Aikidoka could learn from this.
Shihan Kincaid was sent to the Makotokai by shihan Hepburn a looong time friend we shared a flat for years. Attempting to throw shihan Kincaid was like trying to uproot a tree. The dan grades were lining up to train with him..it was great for their training. Shihan Kincaid is shodan aikido after about two and a half years. He got the guys into kendo armour and set them loose on dan grades kendo who stoically received blows to every target but the correct ones without retaliating at all. Afterwards he said the boys had great spirit and their "kendo" was a cross between helicopters crashing and lobsters mating. Hey!! we accept "complements" from anyone we admire. regards koyo crosstraining with shihan Kincaid really had me "on my bike"..kendoka do NOT attack the legs...aye right!!!
Once again thanks for a great video. Koyo I have a photo of Shihan Hepburn you and my dad taken at a course at Bellahouston Sports Centre I think it was with Sekiya Sensei not very sure. I will look it out and send it. I really enjoyed all the videos thanks.
I see nothing but the highest quality aikido here. Thanks for sharing? Just don't know why the sound in only coming out of my left speaker, only does it on these vids, doesn't affect my other multimedia.
A question for Koyo. Why you wore black (deep blue) Gi in the demo? Is it custom or any special meaning?
Saito hanshi gave a demonstration of kendo and iai at an iket. International kendo practice and demo. He wore that hakama and kimono then. The makotokai gave a demo of aikido and akiken at the same venue. saito hanshi gave his outfit to Hepburn shihan telling him to give it to a "worthy" swordsman. Shihan Hepburn presented it to me (more for the support and encouragement I had given him over the years) He also requested a demonstration...hence the video. regards koyo The IKET demo
I think I saw a little difference of the sword technique between Sensi Coyle and Shihan Hepburn in the video. Every swordman might be different except the spirit.
After watching all 3 videos with Sensei Coyle, then looking at the Ki Aikido videos in the thread titled:bang: "Fruity Aikido":bang: I wonder if those guys will ever see Coyle sensei's videos and take a long hard look at themselves:evil:
My intention when asking Bear to post the videos was to offer an insight into the principles of aikido that I often see missing in many youtube videos. Examples of over compliant "attackers" teachers standing square on to the attack and swinging their arms across their centreline then spinning around the attacker with no attempt to unbalance the opponent before applying a technique. I have seen entire seminars given over to "grasping the wrist "techniques" When these are EXERCISES ment to study principles...which in many cases are completely absent. While I understand and share the frustration of serious aikidoka ..comparisons are odious so I would NOT compare videos..however I would hope that perhaps the explanation of principles offered may be of value to other aikidoka. If I can be of assistance in further explanation then this thread may have a positive purpose. regards koyo
These are awesome. You're like a hardcore fighting Billy Connolly! (thinking accent and beard/hair here. Shame you haven't dyed it purple yet!) Also, the beginning of the second vid where you're discussing the strengths of the sword and relating it to aikido is so insightful. It's a fantastic way to look at it. It's easy to see how Aikido can be effective when there is such instruction going on. From an Aikido know-nothing.
I am not comparing videos as such but it seem to me if one looks at both videos in your videos one can see the principles of Aikido, but in the other it seems to me that there is no basic Aikido technique, that is my opinion, I may be well off here but it is what I observe. I know what you George and my dad , (and I must say mostly you) went through under Chiba Shihan, again this is my opinion, these other guys would not have come back.I try to follow the true spirit of Aikido training that my dad taught me through your teaching when he practised with you. I do get a little upset when I see someone explain a technique that just will NOT work. So I suppose in a way I do compare both sets of videos, because some who watch it may think that this is what Aikido is all about when watching the video against a knife attack.In your videos I see the principles of Aikido. I was taught Triangle/ Circle/ Square. I see none of that in the other videos.As I have said this is my opinion.
Since you mention knife and triangle circle and square principle. Aikido is performed from sankaku ho (triangular posture) so you should never be square on to an attacker. The first principle of triangle circle and square is taisabaki body movement and alignment. Maximum mobility BUT minimum movement to execute the technique. This can be seen in the sword techniques. Below the triangular kamae has sharpened into hito emi so that my body alignment escapes me from the knife jab (it is NOT the usual large lunge). Try standing square against that form of attack. regards koyo llamagedon..who says I have not died my hair since then?????? THe left handblade is cutting to a point behind and out from his line of attack. This is a kuzushi weakpoint of balance. Gedan barai executed to this point is much more effective than basic. Enoida and Kanazawa shihans used this a lot.
I have to agree. The sword demo was quite effective in getting that message across. I might have to borrow it to explain it to someone. Hope you don't mind.
Did you notice koyo also goes off on little tangents halfway through explaining something. Just like Billy Connelly does with his jokes! It's uncanny! and koyo also plays guitar Anyway! Thanks again koyo. I'm pretty sure you'll be getting more questions. :evil:
This only proves what I have always said, that the closer to the source the better the budo. Although there are many styles of Aikido the basic principle should be much the same with technique that work under pressure. The system of Aikido I practice is a kata based system with both tori and uke working together but it should not be in Aiki bunny fashion. One of our kata the koryu dai yon employs techniques from the shichihon ho kuzushi. this kata uses kuzushi techniques from Jodan aigamae, Jodan Gyaku, Chudan Aigamae, Chudan Gyaku. Gedan Aigamae, Gedan Gyaku and Ushiro ryote mochi grips. My instructor insisted that the Dai Yon be performed at any dan grading as she thought this kata showed the important principles of aikido if done well. I for one get fed up with the aikibunny mentallity and the lack of understanding of weapons that some groups show, there are many who just make it up as they go alone. I was on a seminar a while ago and one of the teachers taught a sword block with his blade. I was very polite on the course but I made it clear to my students at our next class what crap was taught.
Koyo I do not think I mentioned anywhere that you should be square on to an attacker.What I was refering to was my reasons for comparing one set of videos from another. I may be wrong here if so then I hope you will put me right. I was taught enter (triangulary) technique (Circle) Finish Technique (Square or powerfully) I may not be explaining myself correctly but this is what I was taught. Again this is my opinion but I am open to be corrected if wrong
