Why if I study karate and I get beat does karate suck? How come I don't suck? Why does everyone blame the system for the practioner of the system that sucks? Which is why I think MMA Style is so popular because it's easy to get good at these arts sooner. If you study praying mantis your not going to beat a mma person with six months of training compared to your six months in praying mantis but what about after you both have 5 years of training? What do you guys/gals think?