Have i made a blunder Dear Van Zandt, From your comments I think I may have made a big mistake.For nearly 40 years I have been involved in Aikido training with some of the greatest Japanese masters. Funny nobody ever told me I was wearing Jammies.In fact due to my total ignorance i have been calling my training venue a dojo [a place to study the Way] rather than a Gym.Silly me !! I further compound my total lack of common sense and I chose Aikido rather than go to my local MMA GYM and become a lean mean fighting machine after a year or so..Glad you pointed out the error of my ways. ways.