Not TKD but........ I found these old archive films about self defense. I'm too lazy to make a separate thread. Well...... maybe I'll make one later. Man I must be running out of videos. Enjoy [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmTni0AM-Uo"]Rare Jujitsu Footage from the early 1900's 20's - 30's? - YouTube[/ame] [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmP1uKOVTr4&mode=related&search="]Rare Jujitsu Footage from the early 1900's 20's - 30's? no.2 - YouTube[/ame] And of course some TKD; [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcGJzFZ8aXg]Still Kicking[/ame] [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk7O8ELJDvU]Another classic fight (I can't remeber how many times this one has been posted up)[/ame]
I'm not really sure if I should be posting here or not, as I haven't done TKD in a few years now... Here is a video of me demonstrating taegeuk chil jang of WTF TKD. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhLBuuCuYUs"]YouTube[/ame] James
I competed in the CIMAC Superleage over the weekend. I know my Coach's wife got at least 1 of my fights on video. [She was dashing about trying to catch everyones fights on video.] Anyway. I got annihilated in Continuous. Some black guy axe kicked my shoulder off and put me to sleep with an excellent right cross. [Keep your chin up, eh? .... Or not.] Anyway. When I get any videos sent. They shall be shown.
light contact? Good to see TKD mixing it on the freestyle circuit. Did you walk onto the punch or were you knocked out? If so, was he dq'd? You should pop along to the Combat Champions League events and give them a go as well. we need more TKD guys.
There was a few TKD guys there. I was against one of them in the first round of continuous. It's all a little unclear now. We'd been fighting for nearly 2 minutes. I remember forcing him back with side kicks. Then I think I missed a hook, he swayed back and cracked me. And no he wasn't disqualified. I don't think the punch was that hard. Just that accurate. Fair decision really.
Master Darcy (A.I.M.A.A.) Here's some videos of Master John Darcy. He's the Master who instructed my current instructor, trained under Grandmaster Hee Il Cho, has been training for over 30 years. This guy is awesome I've had the pleasure of training with him a few times and hope to train in his class as well as my current one, as soon as I get my job timetable sorted. http://www.aimaaeuropehq.com/video clip - Darcy 5.MPG http://www.aimaaeuropehq.com/video clip - Darcy 6.MPG http://www.aimaaeuropehq.com/video clip - Darcy steelwork.mpeg http://www.aimaaeuropehq.com/Darcy Movie 2.MPG (My instructor is the guy he corrects in this video)
I haven't trained with master Darcey, but I have trained with master Cho at his club in Hawaii and with Master Ameris at his club in Pennsylvania on a few occasions. Both were great experiences and if you ever get the chance I highly recommend it.
I like the energy that he puts into Kwang Gae pattern, very nice. He does it a bit differently than what I've learned, knife hand blocks instead of c-blocks, twin pressing block on the first turn instead of a pair of single reverse upward palm blocks, and the back fists were strange to me, with the elbow bent at almost 90 degrees. Is that how it's done in the A.I.M.A.A.? BTW the above are not criticisms, as I'm aware that different schools interpret the patterns slightly differently. Just observations and questions.
My TKD application channel!! Hi Folks, I have added the Jung Bong (short staff) pattern I have been doing for a few years to the channel along with part one of the applications to that pattern. This pattern is based on Pyung-Ahn EeDan. But can be done with Won Hyo Tul or Heian NiDan and Pinan ShoDan as well. Also I have added the first of the Strike Drill videos we do with the second to follow in the next few weeks. Link to the channel... http://www.youtube.com/jungshin enjoy,
Firstly I believe patterns are absolutely useless and I don't care how they are preformed as whatever way is a waste of time. That said what you are saying brings me to an interesting point.... The way patterns are preformed in AIMAA (Grandmaster Cho's assocation) are differnt from the way the modern ITF and other large assocations such as the TAGB preform them. And as a member of AIMAA in England I often meet people from other associations who say "oh grandmaster cho has changed the patterns" and "at our club we do them the traditional way". Let me explain why this is a stupid comment, Master Cho was a student of General Choi he learned his patterns exactly as General Choi taught them in the early years. Then in the late 60's, for one reason or another, Master Cho broke away from general choi and went on his own. As such he continues to teach the patterns as he originally learned them from Gen Choi, so he has in fact changed nothing! And as for people I have spoke to in particular people from the GTI and TAGB claiming that the teach patterns the "traditional way", grandmaster Cho learned his patterns direct from Choi long before the TAGB or GTI ever existed making the way Master Cho does his patterns the "traditional way" and the way that the TAGB, GTI, UKTA do them is actually the modified way.
Good god! Can he still use a computer after punching that pole like that? I'd hate be in front of one of those knuckes at the wrong time!
That seems like a bit of a long rant from someone who thinks patterns are a big waste of time anyway.
I would address this but bmcgonag handled it perfectly. Anyway, I wasn't criticizing his form, as I believe I made clear in my original post. :bang: Seems to me the bolded section explains it all.
Interesting. I'll have to check out more of your videos. I only watched the strike drill vid, which was interesting, but the audio was very hard to comprehend due to the echo. You must be filming those things in a big gymnasium or something.
What does that mean? There are thousands of people who have broken away from the ITF, including the GTI and TAGB which is the largest TKD association in Britain and who have criticizes (well not the association its self but people in it) GM Cho for "changing" the patterns.
I got up to 1st Dan, and I left to begin exploring classical Chinese fighting arts. James Edit: Sorry, I was in a rush last night, so I didn't get a chance to make a full response. I felt that arts like Tae Kwon Do, Karate, Choi Kwang Do, Kickboxing etc we're all very limited when it came to meeting my needs. In practicing martial arts, my primary goal is effective self defence, and I felt that the arts listed above (with probably the exception of Choi Kwang Do) had to much of a sport emphasis to them, and (now including Choi Kwang Do) they all turn to kick boxing when they are used anyway. To me, this is not an effective method of self defence. I don't want to be sparring up to someone attacking me. I want to be nothingness until he attacks, when all of a sudden I become a brick wall, or a whip, or an cannon. I didn't feel that these "kickboxing" arts were suitable for that kind of usage. I began training in Tai Chi, which I quickly found fitted my needs perfectly. Along with practicing Tai Chi, I've also been researching Hsing I, Bagua Zhang, and Northen Mantis Kung Fu. In my opinion, these arts are much more suited to self defence than the others that I have practiced. That's why I left TKD. James
What I'm saying is that if he broke away from Choi in the late 60's, then it's only natural that slight changes are going to eke there way into his forms. Remember this was before video was commonplace. He was working from memory after all, without reinforcement from Gen. Choi. BTW this is to a certain extent, no different than it is for every TKD association today. It's the same way that accents developed in certain parts of the world prior to the advent of mass media. Isolated communities and regions developed accents that were unique. In other words they still are speaking English in Georgia, but you'd have a hard time proving it to a Brit.
I wont get into that...but 2 points: 1. Not sure why they would actually be that different from the TAGB, as GM Cho was their chief Black belt Examiner for many many years, so surely he wouldnt grade people up who didnt perform the patterns how he want!!!! Actually I have heard different. I heard that he did indeed make some small changes, due to his falling out with Gen Choi.. sort of like a snub in the nose! The facts seem to support this. For example, he left in the late sixties you say, which was after the ITF was formed so he would have been learning the standard ITF way as you point out. Just before the ITF was formed in 1966 Gen Choi released his book "Taekwon-do", I have checked this out before and off the top of my head, Kwang-Gae in the 65' book states moves #4 & #6 are hooking blocks.. not knife-hands as GM Cho does or teaches. Similarly, in pattern Toi-Gye the stamps on the 6 W blocks were never performed as crescent kicks, Both the book and old pioneers videos show this! I bet there are other differences as well if things are compared side by side in detail. That said, I hold GM Cho in very high regard and have, and still do rate him. I also have great respect for Master Darcy, whom Ive met a couple of times too. Im surprise you`ve gone off like this as Kwang Gae did say "BTW the above are not criticisms, as I'm aware that different schools interpret the patterns slightly differently." which isnt a snub on GM Cho or Master Darcy. Stuart
