Could you supply any details of this? Is it true that most of the throws that the TJF and judo use were mainly from Kito ryu? I thoughtTenshin Shinyo Ryu had a much larger contibution to the Kodokan gokyu. Even so, a 'jiu jitsu' (sic) based on judo is not really a martial art based on, or ever linked in the loosest senseto a koryu, it's just too far removed to be non-comical when claimed. I don't understand why the TJF people keep on at this, they are good at what they do, thet don't need to keep trying to hopelessly defend a link to Kito ryu or Doshin So.