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  1. john yates

    john yates Valued Member

    Even profound concepts are ultimately empty: the Ultimate Path is wordless, and if we speak, we go astray from it. Though we may characterize the fundamental basis as “empty by nature,” there is no “fundamental basis” that can be labeled. Emptiness itself is wordless: it is not a mental construct. :Aegis:
     
  2. slipthejab

    slipthejab Hark, a vagrant! Supporter

    lol... zen overload. :D
     
  3. john yates

    john yates Valued Member

    yes and
     
  4. slipthejab

    slipthejab Hark, a vagrant! Supporter

    I've just woken up and read your post... in some ways... just what I needed... silence. :)
     
  5. john yates

    john yates Valued Member

    no Records of The Lanka,but right :Aegis:
     
  6. Verx

    Verx "Darkness Approaches"

    eh?
     
  7. medi

    medi Sadly Passed Away - RIP


    shhhh
     
  8. Emil

    Emil Valued Member

    I think somebody should call the cliche brigade.

    Em
     
  9. Fire-quan

    Fire-quan Banned Banned

    Will they arrive in a Hackney cab? :)
     
  10. john yates

    john yates Valued Member

  11. Talyn

    Talyn Reality Hacker

    From a purely argumentative perspective, this is self-defeating.

    Aside from that, it's fairly obvious.
     
  12. Saz

    Saz Nerd Admin

    Am I the only one puzzled by the overuse of the Call Aegis smiley??
     
  13. Su lin

    Su lin Gone away

    I am making NO comment about the relevance between the use of the Call Aegis sign and the notion of the empty mind. :D
     
  14. Verx

    Verx "Darkness Approaches"

    :D :saz:
     
  15. Sever

    Sever Valued Member

    Sooooo, essentially, you're telling an entire discussion board to shut up because we're going off the Ultimate Path?
    Awesome! Detours are more fun anyway
     
  16. medi

    medi Sadly Passed Away - RIP



    awww. I see what's going on there.



    :saz: :saz: :saz: :saz: :saz:


    better?


    x
     
  17. aikiwolfie

    aikiwolfie ... Supporter

    :saz: :saz: :saz: :saz: :saz: :saz: :saz: :saz: :saz: :saz: :saz:

    Same difference Su
    :p
     
  18. JHughes

    JHughes New Member

    lol i didn't realise that was true until he said. :D
     
  19. Talyn

    Talyn Reality Hacker

    I figured somebody had to point out the absurdity of the claim from a logical perspective. :D
     
  20. cloudz

    cloudz Valued Member


    It's not concepts that are described as ultimately empty, it's all phenomena (any observed event)..
    Which is anything that is or can be an object of consciousness. Phenomena are also said to have an intermidiate status between real and unreal.. (If i remember rightly)

    Aswell 'empty' has a particular meaning here in the Indian philosophy context that is not our everyday use of the word. Akin to transient rather than nothing being there.

    Concepts are certainly the product of thought, which is indeed transient. At some point I'll attempt to expand on the meaning of emptiness in the philosophical context here.

    By "fundemental basis" i assume you refer to something like ultimate reality? label it we may well do, but knowing, describing, communicating it is something else ..
     
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2007

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