Gary, there you go with those Masonic Conspiracy allusions again I'm not in any "Inner Circle", "Inner Sanctum", "Cabal" etc. Sorry to disappoint. :Alien: Then again, if I were, I'd deny it anyways right? Hmmmmm.... :yeleyes: An while there are those people who want to go through you to say things for them on the internet, I'm not one of them. Nope, just thought I'd try to see why the history of Karazenpo has three different histories on three of its top representative's websites. When the Founder, President, and Mass. State President all have different stories, it makes you wonder why. Nearest answer that I can derive from the posts of KGS BBS is that Gascon can't remember things very well, so who knows? For example: KGS BBS wrote: "Anyway, to answer some questions. I got the information on David Kamalani from Peter Teymourez. True, Sonny Gas does not remember him. Now putting aside whether the info. is correct or not that I originally received, it is also possible that being over four decades ago Sonny Gascon doesn't remember. I believe he did not tell Mike Rash he was positive that he was never in KGS but he simply does not remember him being there." That seems like a fair enough answer. If people get to the point where they start losing their memories, you can't fault them for that, so I'm prepared to accept this explanation and move on.