Garrots for the Police Force

Discussion in 'Other Styles' started by Pretty In Pink, Jul 22, 2015.

  1. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    Just thinking about police restraining people high on meth and stuff. Wouldn't choking them with a cheese wire be very efficient and would render them unconscious much easier than choking them out with your arms. Downsides would be that they look worse, leave bruising, and ill training could lead to deaths.

    Seems safer than a taster, what do you guys think?
     
  2. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    Cheese wire will cut the flesh, and potentially sever an artery.

    It would also cause huge public outcry. Especially when they inevitably apply it on an innocent person.
     
  3. Alansmurf

    Alansmurf Aspire to Inspire before you Expire Supporter

    This is a wind up ....right ?
     
  4. zombiekicker

    zombiekicker bagpuss

  5. Karatebadger

    Karatebadger Valued Member

    Give them carrots, the art of Ninjinjutsu* is very effective at startling perps.

    *techniques for inserting a carrot into your opponent.
     
  6. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Tazer I assume you mean and the answer is no, it wouldn't be

    A garotte is designed to kill; not incapacitate or render unconcious, but kill. There is enough of a outcry about a sfae technique like an RNC or an LVNR being applied so the chances of a "service issued carotid restraint device' being accepted is zero
     
  7. Johnno

    Johnno Valued Member

    Even with really GOOD training it would still lead to deaths.

    There have been many cases of people dying in police custody due to being restrained badly by policemen. Imagine the death rate from trying to garrotte people to render them unconscious. You might as well just try to restrain them by shooting them.

    If this is a serious suggestion then it's so bad as to be almost comical. So.... did it come from Michael Gove?
     
  8. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    That would definitely give a perp pause for thought! :eek:
     
  9. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    Meh, I was just wondering. What about a rubber alternative?
     
  10. SWC Sifu Ben

    SWC Sifu Ben I am the law

    Use of force for the police generally goes like this:

    You shot him? Why didn't you use the taser? - excessive force questions
    You used the taser? Why didn't you use the baton? - excessive force questions
    You used the baton? Why didn't you use your hands? - excessive force questions
    You used your hands? How come he got hurt so badly? - excessive force questions


    You would literally just be adding another step to that and the ridiculous misunderstandings the public already have over what is reasonable and necessary force for law enforcement.
     
  11. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    This is why God created rubber bullets.
     
  12. Fish Of Doom

    Fish Of Doom Will : Mind : Motion Supporter

    i would have thought choking someone with a rubber bullet would instantly constitute excessive force, though :p
     
  13. Unreal Combat

    Unreal Combat Valued Member

    Why use a garrote when a police officer has a baton. You can employ chokes just as efficiently while being able to release the choke much quicker if necessary.
     
  14. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    My thinking was that they are much harder to resist against because your fingers can't really grab onto them.
     
  15. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    There's always one.
     
  16. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Also rely on the elemnt of suprise, something that you do not have in an arrest scenario as a rule
     
  17. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    You generally have two officers though. One to hold, one to choke.


    Idk. I'd prefer every officer was a purple belt in BJJ tbh.
     
  18. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Wrestling is actually better
     
  19. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    You just want to argue today, huh? :p
     
  20. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    As opposed to....? :)

    Wrestling offers control and transition to cuffing better from my experience - BJJ is perfectly valid and works hellishly well too though
     

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