Flying in movies ?

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Who likes it when MAists start flying around in MA movies ?

  1. Yes

    4 vote(s)
    19.0%
  2. No

    17 vote(s)
    81.0%
  3. Not sure

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. freespirit

    freespirit spirit of the free

    Who likes it when MAists in movies start flying around ?
     
  2. morphus

    morphus Doobrey

    I voted no but if there is good reason like sci fi - but not in the ordinary world film wise.
     
  3. Adam

    Adam New Member

    I hate it. Ruins MA movies.
     
  4. Qis

    Qis Blue Tags WTF

    Yeah, it jus makes a mockery of the skill they are supposed to be demonstrating.

    -Qis
     
  5. Kwajman

    Kwajman Penguin in paradise....

    It takes away all the credibility a ma'tist may have been building up. Then pffffft, he goes flying across a tree top or something, and its gone....
     
  6. Topher

    Topher allo!

    What do you mean by flying? Like Jackie Chan jumping gates and climbing buildings/jumping from buildings or the old style sword play movies.
     
  7. wayofthedragon

    wayofthedragon The Defender

    I think he's talking about that crouching tiger hidden dragon type flying in movies. Hmmm, I like it sometimes.....it depends on the movie, and it has to be done at the right time....if ya know what I mean;)
     
  8. Topher

    Topher allo!

    Right. Well, CTHD wasn't bad. I guess if it isn't too ridicules it's ok.
     
  9. 47Ronin

    47Ronin New Member

    Looks stupid like the matrix.
     
  10. KickChick

    KickChick Valued Member

    Art Camacho is offering a workshop entitled "Wireworks" which is proved to be very successful ...

    Anyone can learn to fly ...

    Art Camacho's WireWorks
     
  11. Ramda

    Ramda Valued Member

    It depends on how you view the movie, if its a MA movie you goto then I want to see MA not how to fly. If i view it as a Sc-Fi movie aka: Matrix then its OK.
     
  12. pesilat

    pesilat Active Member

    I didn't vote because it's so subjective.

    Fiction - regardless of medium - sets up its own universe with its own rules. When we choose to watch/read fiction, we choose to accept those rules as fact while we spend time in that universe.

    So if a piece of fiction, like the Matrix, has rules for flight in its constitution then that's fine and, within the context of that universe, wholly believable.

    When a piece of fiction breaks its own rules, though, then it becomes unbelievable. So, as others have said, if something is set in the "real" world then flying is not believable.

    So - from that perspective, I don't like it in my MA movies unless a reason has been laid in the groundwork of the piece (ala Matrix).

    But, regarding Kung Fu theater type flicks, I make an exception. For a long time, I didn't like it in them either. Then I heard an interview with Ang Lee about "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon."

    He said something to the effect of: "In China, people are so restricted in so many ways in their everyday life that when they go to the movies or read a book they want to be entertained on a wide variety of levels - they want to laughter, tears, fear, excitement, suspense, etc. all rolled into one. And they want to escape, at least in their minds, from the restrictions of their daily life. I think the wire work flying represents this escape. It's also representative of the feeling of escape and release that a person feels when they're expressing themselves in a way they're passionate about - whether its through writing, painting, or martial arts. When they are doing their thing, they are free in a way that they never can be in the rest of their lives - they feel like they're capable of anything. I think the flying in martial arts movies is a graphic representation of that feeling and people can identify with it."

    After hearing his take on it, I became a lot more accepting of it. And it broadened my horizons in general. Even though I'm not restricted in my own life, per se, when I go see a movie, I want to be entertained. I want to step away from all the hectic buzz of my life - away from my responsibilities and busy schedule. I want to be entertained for a couple of hours.

    So now my attitude is very much one of, "I get enough reality in my life. When I go to the movies or read a book, I'm looking for entertainment not reality." Exceptions to this, of course, are non-fiction pieces. I want those to be "real" - but entertaining is also good.

    So it's a fine edge. If a piece of fiction defies its own reality then it loses some of its entertainment appeal to me. But if it's completely "real" then it's not going to seem very entertaining to me.

    For me, I can't make any sort of broad categorization. Some movies, I don't mind - or even enjoy - the wire work. Others, it just annoys me.

    Mike
     
  13. freespirit

    freespirit spirit of the free

    very good, thats open my mind up a little aswell pesilat :)
     
  14. DexterTCN

    DexterTCN New Member

    Freeform...you seen the Japanese movie 'Versus' ?
     
  15. Poop-Loops

    Poop-Loops Banned Banned

    My friend told me to watch that movie, but it's not at Blockbuster (he d/led it via Kazaa). He told me that the characters don't even have names, and to cut down on $$, the characters die TWICE. :)

    I REALLY want to watch it.

    PL
     
  16. Hadouken

    Hadouken New Member

    I thought that flying in some of the chinese/asain movies (ie crouching tiger) was more like the tall tales of american folk lore.
     

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