I can totally relate to that. Having been on both sides of the fence certainly does put things in perspective. It's been about three years since I quit, also. I quit just before moving into a new apartment, so I have never smoked here (thank goodness). Occassionally I'll find something old, however, that I had close to me when I was a smoker that still wreaks of stale smoke. It makes me wonder how non-smokers could ever stand to be around me back then.
never like smoking!! :bang: know it's a bad things.. bad for you and bad to anyone near you!! let's stop smoking!! :Angel: isn't it's not wise for a MA-ers to smoking??
cos they are your friends maybe You wouldn't want to tell your friend they stink? all my ex's have been smokers, and that's not great when you're a non-smoker, they didn't care what I thought of it though, even if it was like snogging an ash tray *gag*
Those who smoke undermine the people who are dying from smoking related diseases. Those who have examples of smokers who have lived to a ripe old age are far outweighed by those who have lost someone early due to smoking related illness. The truth is smoking kills, passive smoking kills and neither do it in a quick or painless way.
I smoked on and of from 12 to 18 then I smoked full time, till I was 30. Someone earlier said he had heard smoking is as hard to give up as heroin, I gave up hard drugs in 1984 smoking was much easier than beating a jones. I mean come on, How many people here have quit cigarettes, did you feel like going out stealing, robbing or even killing, to get a ciggie, did any of you consider prostitution, No I knew you hadn't, maybe a bit cranky, felt a bit rough as the cyliae started doing there job again and all that stale stinky phlegm left your lungs, a sore throat as the lining started to mend. Now when I gave up smoking I gave up booze for nearly 3 years as well, not because I thought I was a problem drinker but because I could not have a pint without reaching for a fag. So those of you who are giving up - good on you, those who are still smoking good luck because you need it.
ex smoker i'm an ex smoker, i smoked from being around 15/16 untill just over two years ago i wasn't a heavy smoker but at a weekend could get through 20 a day no problem whilst out socialising!! a few months after giving up i was diagnosed with hodgekins disease[cancer of the lymphatic system] and ive been fighting it ever since , i'm 30 now and i'm just coming to the end of a very strong course of chemotherapy which through training and keeping strong ive managed to remain fairly fit so far, but after spending so much time in and out of cancer hospitals watching people young and old dying from smoking related illnesses has made me realise how terrible smoking is so if you do only one thing this year give up smoking .
I don't think you can quite point the finger at passive smoking causing death. There are so many other polluting things, like traffic fumes which may be contributing more to the problem then passive smoking - as traffic is everywhere, passive smoking only tends to be in pubs/clubs, some restarants or smokers home's.
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has published a major assessment of the respiratory health risks of passive smoking ( Respiratory Health Effects of Passive Smoking: Lung Cancer and Other Disorders EPA/600/6-90/006F). The report concludes that exposure to environmental tobacco smoke (ETS) -- commonly known as secondhand smoke -- is responsible for approximately 3,000 lung cancer deaths each year in nonsmoking adults and impairs the respiratory health of hundreds of thousands of children. Fingers will be pointed!
I can see how fingers are pointed, but don't you think it might also be pointed at fumes coming from vehicles also which are on pretty much every road? Carbon monoxide comes from both traffic fumes and second hand smoke. Is there a report to show the respiratory health risks caused by traffic fumes? I know for a fact that when I've been in stuck in traffic for 40+mins it causes me to cough as much as when I've been in a smokey pub. I had asthma when I was younger so this contributes to the problem for me. I'm not saying that passive smoking doesn't cause problems, I'm saying that it's not the only risk that fingers should be pointed at.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3991633.stm Yes there are but pitting one against the other is pointless, transort is a part of day to day life, there are no sustainable alternatives at the moment, the alternative to smoking is stopping.
i have never smoked and never will, i feel sick when i breath in an other persons smoke and would never try it even if i wanted to because i know that it would effect my health and training.
Good luck man. I know how hard it is to quit. I've tried a few times, but soon enough I will try again.
Thanks Thanks for the support... I really hope I'll succeed 'cause I don't see how MA could mix with smoking. That's the reason I'm trying to quit.
Don't try or hope to quit. Simply do it. Quitting is the easy part. The hard part is accepting the consequences of quitting. Accept the fact that quitting will be hard, and do it anyway. When you feel the symptoms of withdrawal, just observe them and accept them. Keep it in your mind that the actual quitting part is already done, therefore you cannot fail because there is nowhere to go back to. You quit, it's done, the bridge is crossed and burned behind you, for better or for worse. You have already begun your new life, no matter what that new life entails. At first it may be difficult, but gradually things will improve. You will love the new you! When you quit, bring all the bad things you hate about smoking right to the surface and let them create a deep resolve within yourself. For me, the most motivating force was the desire to regain control of my life, to end my dependancy on a substance outside of myself. Of course, there are many other reasons. The hardest reasons to grasp are the ones we always hear about, like the risk for lung cancer, heart disease, emphazema, and other health problems. Those are all serious risks, but because they are not presently affecting us we tend not to take them too seriously. It may be more helpful to consider all the things smoking is doing to you RIGHT NOW. Right now, you are a slave to a substance. Right now, you are a hapless sheep to the tobacco industry who is happily taking your money day after day, slowly killing you with their products, laughing all the way to the bank. Right now, you have reduced lung capacity, lower resistance to sickness, and higher risk for things like chronic bronchitus and sinus infections. Right now, you may be suffering from a hacking cough (or will eventually). Right now, your clothes stink, your breath stinks, and your teeth are yellow (or will be). Right now, you are throwing your money away every day on a product that is horrible for you. You can put all of those things behind you in one moment of resolve. That's all it takes. Quitting doesn't take days, weeks, or months. It takes about one second, as long as it takes to shout the words, "I QUIT!"** The louder and stronger you can say those words, the better they will work. Don't just think it; shout it out, make it real. When you really decide to do it, don't keep a pack around "just in case." Throw out all your cigarettes, and be sure to mash them up so you can't change your mind. Throw out the ashtrays too. If you can do that, you've already won. If you can't, you haven't really found the resolve to quit. Keep searching for that spark, that fire inside that will allow you to accept all the consequences of your final decision to quit. There is nothing to fear. You can survive the effects of quitting, unpleasant though they may be. Accept the fact that it will be difficult and do it anyway. It is like a five minute horse-riding stance. It isn't something you do for fun. It hurts, it's uncomfortable, but you do it anyway because you know how much there is to gain. The payoff is huge! You will be better, stronger, healthier, more energetic, richer, and more attractive than you've been in years. You can do it! Kicking the cigarette habit doesn't take an iron will and nerves of steel. It just takes a little resolve to accept the consequences of quitting. That's it. If you can do that, you have already succeeded. I have saved over $6500 since I quit smoking three years ago, and that's a conservative estimate. I am healthier and happier than I've ever been. Use the money you save on cigarettes for martial arts classes and you will change your life in ways you can't even imagine. Best of luck. ** When you shout out the words, "I QUIT," please make sure you are not at work at the time or your message may be misunderstood with rather unfortunate results.
Tries to hide in a little corner of the site lol, I admit to being a secret smoker as no one knew that I did lol. I've been smoking on and off for quite a few years now and still have the crafty cig. when I can lol. My family have no idea that I do smoke and some of my friends as I make sure they don't see me as I feel that I'm doing something wrong in their eyes, I know it's silly but you don't want them to see anything which may cause a few problems for them lol. I also drink so it's not the only vice I have but what the hell you might as well die with a smile on your face if it takes you anyway that's my excuse lol lisa xx
I found quitting caffiene (hard, it's in everything) at the same time as smoking helped. Every time I started going up the walls I had half (Threw the other half away) cup of tea. The relief from caffiene withdrawal was so great that I didn't even notice nicotine cravings. I no longer smoke, but drink lots of coffee.
First of all, ZenPolice a huge thank you for the inspiring reply, I'm really grateful! OBCT and fallentoa thank you as well. I have quit smoking already once (as weird as it sounds) and that time I made a technique (sp?). I drink a lot of water (carbonized). When ever I want to smoke I just drink some water ( I drink about 6 liters of water per day without the water I consume with tea and coffee). First time it worked well. This time I also use Nicorette(r) Gum (A stop smoking aid). So I don't have any other choice than to quit I can easily overcome the physical adiction, it's more difficult to overcome the psychological one
