And you have to resort to name-calling? I am not the one who "read in between the lines". Personal insults replacing the points? And you called me a imbecile? And you do not have the gut to admit when you are replying my post? How brave! I am sure it is good if you justified your bashing. Right now, it is very clear you replied to my opinon and you had to ask me to shut up. Now you starts calling me names? Making fun of my name. Insulting on a personal level. How come? MA is indeed about fighting, and MORE. It is just unfortunate you are unable to see it. With the power of able to fight, it is the more one should be a good person. I am answering to you, yes it is fighting. But there are more. Never had I for once say MA is not about fighting. Good. Now you admit MA is more than fighting. Thank you. No, I do not. I know it came from the warring nature of humans. The oldest record was combative wrestling in ancient China and Qin Emperor made a sport out of it after unifying Ancient China. But it is a fact monks do meditate and it is not a myth. Many people meditate too. What myth? Thank you for sharing your so-called secret but historians had shown otherwise with PROOFS, oh and it is not about Bodhidharma if you are "assuming" again. There are monks, they exist since ancient times. You mean you do not know? And what has monk got to do with this? Weird. Flying warriors? There are, look at the Air Forces, those are the flying warriors. I am glad you are aware it is the most real possible. Pls do realize it is far from real and never should be mistaken for a benchmark for measuring realism of any MA styles or person. Interviews with top fighters had proven this too. These people know. Katas have their own roles. It is a form of training. the technical training on bags and pads are very "kata"ed too. Why can't you respect other's desire to express their body in their own way? In the first place, these people are performers demonstrating their capabilities which many cannot. You call it crap, the same could be said about you. If you care only about fighting, then buy a pistol. So who is being real and who is not? totally subjective. Yah, you can. Buy a pistol. Who has not get over it? The one who is unable to respect others' opinons and reasons for learning MA and bash them for not "fighting" or the one who told you guys to realize MA is MORE than just fighting. You need to insult on a personal level again eh? Oh, I did receive many personal insults after sharing personal experiences regarding how my injuries were healed. They behaves like you now. I get injured, seek treatment, got healed. They reason why the treatments were effective by calling names like you are doing. That's for being honest. Sad to say, they only want AGREEABLE honesty and not disagreeable ones. Obviously, it show how narrowminded BSD's bashers commonly are. See? Give you a honest opinon and you call it a whine. And yet, preaching if one is honest there will be no problem. This is a lie, see above for more information. If I am crying, then what does that make you? Hurling all sort of insults, calling names, making fun of my name. Is there a need to when they ADMITTED they were lying? No, I am not refering the regular bashers but some of the regulars joined in the "fun". I am talking about MAP too, you should learn to read and stop imaginating "meanings". It will make your life better too, mental health is quite an issue in this modern society. We are here speaking about BSD, not TMA vs MMA. Remember? LOL So far, after spending more time in BSD and spending the little time here. It has proven otherwise. Well except for the few who are ill mannered like yourself and your "gang". Please do not make this place another BSD. That will be a degeneration. I am sure you do. Some people climb up to get better, while some need to put others down to do it.