Antifa Forming "Self Defence" Group

It's mostly a group of Liberal leaning people annoyed by white supremacists enough to counter demonstrate, in the majority of cases antifa is really just a name the right wing media have jumped on (for evidence see iPhone and Starbucks) as it's easy to preach hate towards 'communists'.

Again it's covered in the initial video you didn't watch.

 

The guys that attacked me were putting up posters and handing out marxist leaflets on university grounds, i pointed out they were not allowed to do that , at which point one tried to sucker punch me.

They had hipster badges on their bags , one was this

https://openclipart.org/download/263305/antifa.svg


Every Antifa member i have encountered has been a marxist or a communist


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/us/antifa-left-wing-faction-far-right.html?mcubz=0

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-agencies-homeland-security-fbi-a7927881.html

http://www.dailywire.com/news/19717/7-things-you-need-know-about-antifa-michael-qazvini


http://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2017/08/18/lead-ganim-antifa-protest-jake-tapper.cnn

Antifa from its inception has been communist, since Antifaschistische Aktion was formed in the 30's.

 

That's a bit of a semantic point regarding one particular abbreviate of "anti-fascist". Plenty of ex-serviemen during and after WWII fought fascists in civilian riots in Europe, who would equally have fought communists.

Likewise in 1970's and 1980's Britain, plenty of people who would not identify with Communism fought fascists on the streets of Europe.

For instance; Orwell, when fighting Franco in the Spanish civil war, was anti-fascist, but in no way pro-communist as Trotsky or Stalin saw it. He was a democratic socialist.

 

We aren't arguing semantics the group called antifa that uses a black and red flag is largely a communist/socialist group.

Every single one I have met has been a communist and members of the University non-official community society, they were stupid enough to have it written on the leaflets.

I wish I'd kept one now, it said "how did trump win the election?

Come to the local meeting at X location at Y time to see one of our meetings to find out .

#jointheresistance

 

I even knew two people from my uni that have now joined and they were both communists.

 

- About us

I've known people who have both demonstrated and rioted against fascists in the UK who were not communists.

I don't know any American Antifa, but in the UK certainly many throughout the last 80 years have not been communists.

 

And I know plenty of Antifa members that are radical anarcho communists.

So either I'm only ever meeting the radicals or Antifa has a communist problem it's not admitting.

Either way neither of us win because I'm a nazi now.

 

Um, I guess the nazi thing is a joke?

Why would antifa members being communist be a problem? In what way are they trying to hide this?

I think the press is making antifa out to be far more homogenised and politically unified than they are.

 

They were trying to punch my head off...

Radicalised anarcho communists that have a justification for violence on anyone they deem a fascist... Can't see any issue there.

 

How come you are encountering all these Antifacists everywhere?

Are they seeking you out, or are you seeking them out?

(I'm trying to understand how your sampling is so different to the average)

 

Why did they deem you a fascist?

It sounds like there's more to this story then your letting on.

 

Worth throwing this thought in....

In America at least, the President and the media are very right wing and have a vested interest in lying about and misrepresenting anything politically opposed to them.

Antifa is a specific and quite small organisation. I'm not convinced that some events ascribed to them either actually happened or were even Antifa if they did happen.

Most anti fascist actions, protests etc are peaceful and are not carried out by the organisation, Antifa, but by decent ordinary citizens of a variety of political backgrounds who simply agree that fascism is bad.

Heck, WW2 was anti fascist action.

 

The media are right wing? Find me one positive story about a trump or a republican from a source that isn't fox.

 

Because I told them you aren't allowed to put posters up on university grounds.

Which they are not.

They accused me of being a fascist for telling them to stop.

 

It's the energy of youth, mixed in with the more extremes of each side.

That said people marching for white supremacy will be extreme, whereas counter domonstrators who are against white supremacy, will include a majority moderates.

Being against white supremacists/Nazis etc is and should be a mainstream view.

Being for white supremacy is by definition an extreme position.

 

After that first thing they've been lurking about the same place and putting stuff just outside of bounds but where students and me need to walk to go to town.

 

Fox news is the mainstream -

Source_ July 2017 Ratings: Fox News No. 1 Cable Network for 13 Months

 

Agreed.

The issue now all this us VS them stuff is getting worse.

 

So is this at one particular university, or college?

Are you a student there, your post implies otherwise?

Are you perhaps active on the right wing? hence why you seem to be going places these also politically active students are?

If your actually being assaulted or seriously threatened with assault, have you tried reporting this to the police?