American 'gouging match'! 1817

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  1. Louie

    Louie STUNT DAD Supporter

    From the Travels of MR. JOHN PALMER, in
    1817, through the United States of America,
    and Lower Canada. "

    From the rascality and quarrelsome behaviour
    of a few of the Kentucky men, the whole
    people have got a very bad character amongst
    the sister states, especially for blackguardism,
    and their manner of fighting, when intoxicated;
    but this is certainly confined to the lowest, and
    is optional to the fighters. The question is generally
    asked-'-' Will you fight fair, or take it
    rough and tumble ? I can whip you either way.
    By G — d!' The English reader knows what fair
    fighting is but can have little idea of rough and
    tumble; in the latter case, the combatants take
    advantage, pull, bite, and kick, and with hellish
    ferocity strive to gouge, or turn each other's
    eyes out of their sockets.
    I never saw a gouging match, and though often of necessity in the
    lowest company, never had any one offer to do
    me that favour. I believe it is not so common
    by any means as is represented. I saw but two
    men who had been injured by this method of
    fighting — one had almost lost an eye, and the
    other, a free negro, was nearly or totally sightless.
    They both lived on the banks of the
    Ohio, where this dreadful art is most practised ;
    it was introduced from the Southern states.
    There certainly ought to be a strong law enacted
    to prevent a resort to so brutal a practice ;
    surely it is a disgrace and stigma to the legislature.
    Prize-boxing is unknown in the United
    States."

    Louie
     
  2. David

    David Mostly AFK, these days

    As one who scoffs at competitions where gouging etc is disallowed, this is... well, I don't know. One one hand it shows the limits of the ring; on the other it makes me see how you gotta be able to have some fun somehow, and why not water it down a little to get that fun.

    Arguably, it takes more time to train for the ring, which is interesting. Better than watching football IMO.

    Fighting hurts; it's not funny and it has serious consequences. Who said, "It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye - then it's just fun"?
     
  3. Moi

    Moi Warriors live forever x

    That's where I first met Koyo
     

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