The same can be said of you, to be honest. The whole 'greater than thou' mystical man routine has been done, mate. These days, we value honesty and integrity, above conceit and belittlement. You've come on here, touting yourself as having more authority on this subject than the others posting; yet what you post has very little actual content, just lots of: "look deeper" "open your mind" "the answers will come". Very fanciful, but totally empty. So arrogant! Why is insisting that you are mistaken 'ridiculous'? You have not given any practical information on what you practice, other than "keep training" and "the answers will come". Other people on this thread, whether we agree with each other or not, have at least shared their opinions in an open way. Not with you - how dare we question you? We obviously are not as deep and wise as you! That is ridiculous, "my friend". Something that can actually be discussed! First of all, can you define the 'it' that I've highlighted above? I agree that 'techniques' are there as a framework in which we seek to understand the principles of the art, and the ultimate goal is 'formlessness' If you're just standing for 45 minutes, awaiting some sort of awakening or empowerment - then yes, you are just loitering. See, this is the arrogance that will get you nowhere in this community. You're trying to subconsciously set yourself up as more authoritative, by belittling others. We don't grow as people by opening our minds so much that our intelligence falls out.