Wrestling v bjj which is best...

Discussion in 'Brazilian Jiu Jitsu' started by icefield, May 8, 2018.

  1. icefield

    icefield Valued Member

    Click bait bit worth it to see the best of all time in action so smooth no one better even against a world class wrestler

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  2. aikiMac

    aikiMac aikido + boxing = very good Moderator Supporter

    "Be like water" -- so that's what it looks like! :eek:
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  3. Mushroom

    Mushroom De-powered to come back better than before.

    Askren does have a bit of a submission game. But yeah, typical wrestler vs beej. Wrestler forward, head up, back straight, drive = guillotine and pretty pointless hooks or holding onto limbs that does nothing.
    (I feel your pain Askren...I feel it!!)
  4. icefield

    icefield Valued Member

    Askren is a lot better now, but he faired about as well as anyone does against Garcia

    pound for pound he has to be the best ever, so innovative and dominated a stacked weight class for years whilst doing very well in the absolutes against some real monsters
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  5. Dan93

    Dan93 Valued Member

    That was poetry in motion, beautiful to watch. his transitions were amazing. I would give my right eye for a skill set like this.
  6. Mushroom

    Mushroom De-powered to come back better than before.

    He is the uncrowned (kinda) King. Him and GSP is the ultimate dream match. His Joe Rogan interview was great, his One FC stuff is now all free to watch.
    Just a shame that about 3yrs ago there was a seminar booked in London which got cancelled last minute :(
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  7. icefield

    icefield Valued Member

    I was actually talking about Marcello's grappling :cool::p:D

    Although re reading what I put it does apply equally to both
    Askrems wrestling for mma is as innovative as Garcia's bjj
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  8. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    Do we all agree that

    - wrestling/Judo has better take down skill than BJJ has, and
    - BJJ has better ground skill than wrestling/Judo has?

    If we do agree, is there anything left for discussion?
  9. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    What type of wrestling? :)
  10. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    Both no jacket western wrestling and jacket Chinese wrestling.
  11. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Then I would make a case for CACC having a comparable arsenal to BJJ, albeit with a thinner talent pool
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  12. EdiSco

    EdiSco Likes his anonymity

    Are Muay Thai's stand up grappling skills (clinch) comparable to Wrestling and Judo's stand up? my uneducated opinion is, Thai's clinch has got strikes, which makes it far more effective in MMA or a Real life situation?
  13. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    Yes and no, the clinch it does is great, but it's limited in the takedown etc that are allowed, and therefore what they can defend against, a few things MT foes, will leave you at a massive disadvantage, if you don't know the weaknesses.

    That said, it's really all about what you enjoy enough to train in.
  14. icefield

    icefield Valued Member

    No body actually mentioned strikes though john was talking about takedowns and ground not mma and strikes
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