WJJF

Discussion in 'Ju Jitsu' started by Prizewriter, Jan 18, 2014.

  1. Kobudo

    Kobudo Valued Member

    Watching that video, the real shame is that those guys can move - if they did something more solid as an art, they'd be lethal!
     
  2. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    WJJF are big or prearranged and choreographed responses - they tend to look significantly better than they actually are
     
  3. nigelnire

    nigelnire Valued Member

    I have found this to be very helpful and enlightening thread. Out of interest has anyone had to use WJJF techniques on the street in a self defence situation? If so did they work ?
    One of my favourite techniques is a wrist throw is that an Aikido throw?
     
  4. greg1075

    greg1075 Valued Member

    Any choreographed routine can look impressive. Anything not pressure tested is a gamble. Worse than ignorance is the illusion of knowledge. Better knowing you can't fight than being deluded you can handle yourself. That's where your risk getting your bum handed to you.
     
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  5. greg1075

    greg1075 Valued Member

    There's just too many parameters involved in a street fight to definitely say whether art ABC or technique X would work. As you'll see repeated again and again on the forum, anything not pressure tested is potentially worthless in a SD scenario. Could it work? Yes. Could it fail miserably? Oh YES.
     
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  6. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Well it depends how you define a 'WJJF technique"

    The techniques themselves are similar to those found in countless other styles....it is the training method that is so poor

    As an illustration, a right cross is common to Taebo and boxing, but only one prepares you to use it under duress in a combat situation
     
  7. greg1075

    greg1075 Valued Member

    Taebo vs boxing. That's a comparison for the ages! :D
     
  8. Prizewriter

    Prizewriter Moved on

    These are the only 2 examples I know of WJJF students who got in "street" altercations. Tragic consequences on both occasions although one obviously more severe.
     
  9. nigelnire

    nigelnire Valued Member

    All makes sense im an easy going guy but have had the misfortune of being attacked for no reason a few times by people on Lunatic soup. Well before i trained in the WJJF I took a guy down with a move almost the same as an outside hock think must have been in my mind from Judo at school.
    Agree that a lot of the problem is over confidence in your ability could indeed lead to you getting a bad beating. There is three man attack stuff at Brown belt heaven help anyone who would think they could take on three people on the street.
     
  10. nigelnire

    nigelnire Valued Member

    Very Sad !! wonder what grade he was.
     
  11. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool the merc with the mouth MAP 2017 Moi Award

  12. nigelnire

    nigelnire Valued Member

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  13. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool the merc with the mouth MAP 2017 Moi Award

    It's only randori, and that's what's missing from your current training, give it a try!
     
  14. nigelnire

    nigelnire Valued Member

    Thanks ill keep it in mind did a little Judo in school I enjoyed it.
     
  15. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool the merc with the mouth MAP 2017 Moi Award

    Judo and BJJ clubs are really friendly, and it'll be a good opportunity to compare training methods!
     
  16. Prizewriter

    Prizewriter Moved on

    Unknown but not too experienced in fairness. Blue belt with tagb.
     
  17. Prizewriter

    Prizewriter Moved on

    Just out of interest... there is also a very good Aikido teacher near you. In fact there are 2 in different clubs. Both trained extensively in Japan (they lived there for years at time) and have strong links with Japanese teachers. So if you wanted to train something that was an actual Japanese martial art (albeit a relatively modern one) then I could send you some details. Aikido would be less useful in a real fight, but for someone interested in Japanese culture and traditional martial arts, Aikido would be a good choice.
     

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