I wanted to start this because of other references to the WJJF on here. I thought it would be best to have it's own thread to discuss the good, the bad and the ugly of the WJJF. The WJJF, as per a very long thread in e-budo, seems to have dubious roots as a "Ju Jutsu" style. Robert Clarke, the founder, apparently studied Yoshin Ryu for a time but was kicked out for forgery. So the story goes. WJJF seems to be a composite of punch, kicks, takedowns, locks from various sources, not all of which would be Japanese. What's wrong with that? Nothing, except the WJJF heavily promotes they are a "Japanese system". The fact of the matter is the WJJF has no connection or roots in Japan so far as anyone can tell. Some stories I've come across about the WJJF over the years. I have either first hand experience or they have been related to me: 1) My skinny teenage friend, with less than a year of BJJ, submitted a WJJF black belt who was considerably older/heavier than he was. 2) During a grading, on 2 occasions different adult students, while demonstrating throwing techniques, fell on their own face while trying to throw someone. They still got their belts. 3) During a grading, a father noticed in the instructors kit bag all grading certificates were already signed and dated BEFORE the grading started. Basically the kids got promoted, regardless of how they did in the grading. 4) My boss studied with the WJJF for 15 months. Admittedly, he went to one class a week. On a night out, while smoking outside a pub, he noticed a drunk man grabbing a woman. He intervened, and ended up taking a savage beating by the drunkard that left him hospitalised. He quit the WJJF shortly thereafter. 5) In Northern Ireland in Summer 2013, a TAGB/WJJF student was killed by a single punch during a street fight he got involved in. The WJJF club responded by saying he only ever went to one class on their facebook page. The young man's own facebook page contradicts this. Perhaps this was an honest mistake, or perhaps it was someone who teaches "Self defence" disowning the young man in order to protect their reputation. I sincerely hope it was the former. 6) Lack of safety. The WJJF class I attended never did much work on breakfalls. Seems a common problem in WJJF classes over here. I witnessed a broken wrist and dislocated shoulder due to not falling properly. 7) Uniforms: You have to buy over-priced WJJF uniforms which tear easily. You cannot use a standard Judo gi, which is much more durable and affordable. You have to buy a patch (currently retailing at £8) every time you get promoted to add to your uniform. The WJJF in Ireland have decided to start their own grappling competitions. They are now selling competition gi's (like judo gi's) as their normal gi's "weren't suitable for fighting in". 8)Robert Clarke. Not fair to talk ill of the dead, but the man was in one of the red top newspapers in the UK in the 90's for failing to pay insurance money and fraud and ended up in court. According to e-budo I should say! He has also had some dubious associations in the past. In short, it is the first organisation that comes in to my head when I hear the term "McDojo". Am I biased? My experience has made me so. Studied with them for a few months after I lost my way in TKD. After 3 months, they had me pining for TKD I'm sure there will be people who will suggest that some of the points I made are less valid than others. They may be right. I'm sure other people have different views on the WJJF. I invite discussion!