Mate if you really wanna talk abotu thai boxing come to the thai boxing forum. You obviously never had a clue even when you apparently DID follow it. those guys brought the sport to the country. They WERE the only coaches. They WERE highly respected because at leas twhat they were teaching was a big step up from the semi contact bullcrap that was getting taught in most kung fu/karate/ tkd schools of the time. By most modern coaches and fighters standards they are crap. They DONT produce good fighters and the only people who still respect them as such are either ex students themselves or grossly misinformed. The best, and indeed ONLY fighter they ever produced that I'd rate was Ronnie Green and here's the deal - he didn't do any other martial art before except kickboxing. He spent most of his time training in thailand, away from their shoddy TKD influences and he was the ONLY one to fight top thais and beat them. None of their pupils have ever surpassed this. If you wanna argue with any of these points from your grossly ignorant viewpoint then send me a PM.