Who else thinks this is wrong

Discussion in 'Judo' started by GojuShotokan, Nov 17, 2014.

  1. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    Indeed I've just been to the site of a French TV sports station where Judo is hidden away in "Other Sports" ironically with among others handball :D :D :D
     
  2. Southpaw535

    Southpaw535 Well-Known Member Moderator Supporter

    That's my problem with it. The "spectator" aspect is only during the olympics and I don't think its a good enough excuse to make changes to the sport for the other 3 years and X number of days random people will watch it. Besides, Greco has no leg attacks and people still don't watch that much. TKD has flashy kicks and still isn't as popular as, say, swimming or track.
     
  3. Latikos

    Latikos Valued Member

    I totally agree with that.
    I just wasn't as elaborate :D
    Edit: What the hell...? I meant "eloquent" :eek:

    And to be honest: I think, that those people who watch it once every four years, really couldn't care less about the rule set.
    It doesn't make it much easier to understand, when you never cared for it before.
    After all, it's not like that the majority of the olympic spectators were able to say: Hey, look, they changed *whatever they changed now*! Four years ago, they were allowed to do that!

    FIFA doesn't get the stupid idea to say: Hey, we should make soccer easier to understand: Let's just use one goal, so people who don't even care for the sport don't get confused.
     
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  4. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    Which cuts to the real issue of Judo as a spectator sport which has nothing whatsoever to do with techniques and everything to do with people just not understanding it. The legs argument only makes sense if people only won by Ippon, but the truth is that most matches still don't end with Ippon. As such you're into a scoring system that people don't really understand.
    Judo is already inoculated against Greco's problems because it penalises stalling. Wrestling's problems again had nothing to do with what they were doing and everything to do with what they weren't doing. Watching two guys stall for two minutes and then crazily scramble for 30 seconds was not entertaining.
     
  5. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

    The Olympics are only every 4 years, but all the individual athlete funding and the majority of the national body funding is allocated based on that one tournament.
     
  6. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    Hence why judo is losing people to bjj.
     
  7. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

    Which is fair enough.
     
  8. HappyAiki

    HappyAiki Valued Member

    Judo used to be won by ipon or submission only. I think that adding other scores was part of the problem. Well, I enjoy doing Judo but part of me wishes that there was a bjc dojo nearby...
     
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  10. Latikos

    Latikos Valued Member

    I read that earlier too.
    But so far it seems more to be a (maybe a little crazy) idea of some French club.

    I'm not entirely sure, but I think MMA has even e worse reputation in France then in some other countries, so this seems to be more like trying to jump on the MMA train, but not make it look "as bad as MMA is".

    So far I doubt, that this will work out.
    But I might be wrong ^^
     
  11. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

    This is just the French Federation and it might be a good thing - depending on the format it takes.

    I'm all for a format that would permit Judoka and BJJ to fight each other without one side or the other being at a material disadvantage as a result of the ruleset.

    It might end up looking a lot like freestyle judo.
     

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