Discussion in 'Brazilian Jiu Jitsu' started by thewillo, Jan 26, 2017.
Haha, that was my first thought too.
decided my technique of the night is going to be the kimura. see if i can pull one off. thanks hannibal!
Remember to "rev" the wrist and use the thumb!
ou est le bouton de merci?
English, but, ya, ... gremlins ate it. :woo:
Always go thumbless!
fyi...i initially didn't get hannibal's comment either until i looked it up and found the video i shared. i always went for it thumbless.
i have to say, what a wonderful thread for learning--started inauspiciously. had never heard of the williams guard before this, and i can't wait to try the thumb version kimura.
If you want to do it less efficiently, sure!
Oooh, I thought catch wrestlers would do it all the way through, cause y'know "catch is so much better than BJJ" to paraphrase pretty much every catch wrestler on the internet - Hannibal included
Yeah but you lot with your fancy new arts when others have been doing it for years, oh wait, JKD.
I'll get my coat.
you guys know all asian martial arts were invented by greeks and spread to asia by alexander the great, right? well now you do, and it's called pankration, the real mma, where dudes died fighting it.
just sayin'..... :evil:
i'm wondering if there's any documentation for some greek ninja-like "master" that trolled his pankration countrymen with "well i'll just gouge this 'sport artists' eyes out", or "that's just sport don't waste your time, try my art for t3h str33ts of thebes"
Word! (damn, I just showed my age, didn't I? )
What Kesting didn't show you is what happens when someone wrenches your thumb before you get the other forearm in.
You're going to have a hard time calling the cops, picking up a stick, or drawing your pistol if you can't use your dominant thumb.
Get your fingers dug in between the ulna and radius, with the notable exception of truly monstrous wrists, and you're golden.
Well as I learned how to use it from Erik I generally call it a chicken wing, but this is the BJJ forum.
Then your technique is poor
Kimura himself says use the thumb...That alone should be a clue!
Où est le bouton pour dire merci / de remerciement?
P.S."Ou" with no accent means "or". With (grave) accent means "where"...
The "BJJ over 40" guy does some pretty cool stuff from Williams guard. Don't let the "over 40" name fool you though. The guy is crazy flexible. It's definitely not a Roy Harris type of BJJ over 40.
Oh, hey, I should have been more specific...
I wasn't talking about the Kimura/DWL (not an area I have the expertise to comment on), just chiming in on a general principle
You can do lots of things thumbless, the hook grip is really really strong when your used to it, its very useful, (particularly in avoiding thumb damage, long term gi grapplers tend to have ruined fingers unless their carefull) as is of course having strong thumb articulation.
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