Which martial arts fighting disciplines can help in street fights the most?

I think you're missing the point.

Does the leg-waggling method offer any advantages over any other? No.

Does it pose the risk of possibly exacerbating a neck injury, no matter how small the likelihood? Yes.

So I don't see any reason to defend its use.

 

They were from all injuries, self reported, which again will skew the results.

Judo has a terrible safety record, in Japan.


Japan Confronts Hazards of Judo

 

Also, saying that having a first aid qualification means nothing isn't correct.

If someone attempts to revive someone following their first aid training, they are far less open to legal action should something go wrong than if they have no qualification and do some wives' tale revival method.

 

[QUOTE="Dead_pool, post: 1075056078, member: 28565]watching sky sports.[/QUOTE]

Watching Sky is too dangerous for me to even contemplate

 

As quoted earlier I think from Mushroom, if in any doubt call a professional, quoted from a first aider, I will conceded, the leg waggling method I'd probably not the best if you conceded you have no evidence to back up that it is not

 

And by the way, you lot are missing euro vision it's your choice

 

A) you can't prove a negative
B) If we have no evidence, why have you changed your mind?

 

I haven't I'm just getting bored

 

I mean you didn’t even get the sky sports attempt at humour

 

Attempt is the right word, I mean you didn't even try an unusual accent!

 

Touche

 

Haha....'clicky group'.
David's been the recipient of far more stick than what you're getting (a lot of it from me!) and remained good humoured.
So are me and David in the clicky group together?

 

Let me just say, and I say this with no ill feeling, or negativity to any of you, you talk about risk assessment, injury prevention, statistically the most dangerous thing any of you have ever done is cross the road (probably) you talk about training, first aid etc, but a fair bet is none of you have had to give first aid to your best mate who has just lost his legs to an IED. My bet is most of you in a situation like that would crap yourselves, you have an ideology, a leads to b, which means c is up next, your thought process is predictable, you have no real experience, 1/2 of you probably have never had a real fight, yet you know best, you have no qualifications to back up your argument, or hard evidence. In a real incident I would put money on the majority of you are a freezer, when the pooh hits the fan you will have a phycological freeze.

 

What exactly is your point? I've read this entire thread and I honestly can't tell what point you are trying to get across. Your arguments just seem to jump from one thing to another without explanation.

 

I call shenanigans straight away.

 

How many mates have you had to patch up after having their legs blown off by an IED?

How did we get from "nah, don't waggle their legs in the air" to you trying to put everyone who disagrees with you down a couple of pegs (with no ill feeling or negativity... followed by ill will and negativity)? I think you might need to do more of those relaxation and breathing techniques Systema teaches.

 

When a point i made is said to be dangerous, I asked for evidence, non was provided, I asked for qualifications, non was provided, a secondary point was made the rnc in training being dangerous, again evidence was asked for, very little was given, suggestions that I was of sterotypical age therefore had a stertopical belief and a person of limited intelligence, the first negatives came from others, surely by reciprocity I am entitled to respond. I understand that others do not share my view, and will recind if proven wrong.

 

And that has exactly what to do with shaking unconscious people, when there are better or healthier alternatives?