Recently, it seems like there is nothing worth discussing in the Ninjutsu forum and the majority of the threads are either started by people new to the art or outsiders. The tone around here seems a bit trollish and anti-Bujinkan. I guess things go in cycles, and that isn't necessarily any better or worse than an anti-Indie or anti-Genbukan tone, so I am not complaining. However, it does make one wonder if there is any use discussing ninjutsu on forums like this. When you look at forums like Kutaki, there is not much going on and the posters write like neutered cats.:zzz: Martial Talk is dominated by one particular vocal and seemingly knowledgeable person who learned the Takamatsuden from a less than authentic source. The same could be said of one of the vocal posters on Kutaki, who is a VanDonkey student. Since there are so few people with any in-depth exposure to the art posting, it seems like there isn't much truly Takamatsuden specific to discuss. As such, there isn't much use gossiping or debunking crappy videos. Perhaps it's time to Shut Up and let the less intellectually stimulating take over. George is quiet, Roley Poley is gone, Markspada is in aggression therapy classes, mattt is trekking around Patagonia, Ben is playing with his kukan balls, and Miss Manga is busy hacking Antony Cummins master site of Natoriness(all these are jokes). I guess unless we want to discuss what it feels to be a 10dan or ninja fitness, there's really not much else to say that hasn't already been rehashed a million times or really isn't that interesting or germane.