I've seen the same vids Master Walton does a wicked scissors sweep at least once! Some of those bouts were superb, including a young Mr Minott in a few I think groundwork has its place but probably under a time limit. Don't want 3 minutes of groundwork, no point! Cheers, Mitch
See when two people get into ground work in the sort of events we're talking about, a submission should be trained to be applied imediatly or else you get two guys on the ground trying to get a lock for 2 minutes 70 with only 20 seconds of stuff that TKD trains... Stiking!