Wanted to move this conversation to so as not to derail (lol) the original thread about Mormonism which shall remain nameless. So, back on topic. No I don't understand real the way you are using it as a religious person. To me if something is real then faith or belief is not required. For example, I believe in air is nonsensical, the existence of air is unquestionable and therefore belief does not apply. Therefore real means something that has evidence of it's existence. It is the opposite of belief. Belief is what you have when you choose to believe in spite of the lack of evidence. The existence of God is not unquestionable and therefore is the subject of belief. It is a belief that is widely held and by many people never questioned but it is still a belief and not real.