Video - Xing Yi Quan and drunken fist

Discussion in 'Internal Martial Arts' started by johncchk, Apr 7, 2013.

  1. johncchk

    johncchk New Member

    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWQWPqWibGQ"]YouTube[/ame]

    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi3VB5L6IXc"]醉拳 Drunken fist - YouTube[/ame]
     
  2. Simon

    Simon Moved on. Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    johncchk, welcome to MAP.

    Just posting videos without an explanation breaks forum rules, so can you explain what it is you like about these videos?

    If it's you in the videos please tell us something about yourself.
     
  3. aaradia

    aaradia Choy Li Fut and Yang Tai Chi Chuan Student Moderator Supporter

    I am not really understanding that drunken form - no offense. She moves drunken style, but hardly any strikes or MA combat moves that I could see. Just a couple of mild attempts at the very end.

    Maybe this drunken style just has different goals in the form than the Drunken form in my style?
     
  4. Fish Of Doom

    Fish Of Doom Will : Mind : Motion Supporter

    i'm more concerned by the sanshou videos on the same channel. hannibal should not watch them.
     
  5. johncchk

    johncchk New Member

    They are my kung fu teacher in northern part of China and they are focus about qigong and other northern internal style as well as internal meditation. The drunken fist is major focus to practice Qi and the "root power"of your stand in a dynamic movement.
     
  6. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knzPomfuZM4"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knzPomfuZM4[/ame]

    What the bloody hell is this crap? Why didn't someone warn me before I watched this absolute drivel!

    Dammit!!!
     
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2013
  7. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    I dance like that
     
  8. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    I've never liked that Xingyi punch absorption stuff. It complete disregards the possibility of your opponent having a concealed blade.
     
  9. Kenko Enso

    Kenko Enso Valued Member

    What is "Xingyi punch absorption"?
     
  10. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsLYNczYrSs"]YouTube[/ame]
    Lots of Xingyi guys use strategies where they take a shot to the torso to enter and drill ways to minimise the damage.
     
  11. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    If his opponent only punches on his head and not on his body, those "absorption" will be useless. Old Chinese saying said, "If you don't hit on your opponent's head, you may have to fight him from sun raise until sun set". To jam your opponent's punch (at 0.26) is a good idea. Again, you will never use your face to "jam" your opponent's punch. I just feel thos body shots are not realistic. Even if you may develop such "absorption" skill, it will still be an useless skill.
     
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2013
  12. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    If that's the case then why are the majority of punches in Kung Fu forms to the body? I would also point to Bas Rutten versus Jason Delucia.
    [ame="www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb1Qtxth6s4"]Bas Rutten vs Jason Delucia (3rd fight - Bas on commentary) - YouTube[/ame]
    Unless he has a knife that you didn't see.
     
  13. Kenko Enso

    Kenko Enso Valued Member

    Neat! So, from what I can tell, they either shift their body back to minimize the blow or try to move into the target so that they can't get proper extension for their strike? Do they have a similar strategy if someone tries to punch them in the face?

    I can see why this method of defense would not work so well with a knife in the opponent's hands.
     
  14. 6footgeek

    6footgeek Meow

    Hmmm. Kyokushin guys develop something similar... But with pain and experience being the teacher.
     
  15. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    In high school, I was a teaching assistant and helped my teacher to correct beginners in my Kung Fu class. There were a tall guy and a short guy in my class. I fixed the

    - tall guy's horizontal back hand punch to be 10 degree upward.
    - short guy's horizontal back hand punch to be 30 degree upward.

    IMO, all punches should go to the head.

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    Last edited: Apr 13, 2013
  16. Shifu_HeZheYu

    Shifu_HeZheYu New Member

    My tip, move the face.
    The head is a smaller target and in general people tend to protect it using hands.
    Best way to protect something is always to move it.
    These kind of techniques are clearly not meant to be the only taught way to meet a technique, but if you are alittle slower, and dont have time to get your whole body out of the way from a punch, you can do this.
     
  17. aaradia

    aaradia Choy Li Fut and Yang Tai Chi Chuan Student Moderator Supporter

    Here is what I was talking about before. This is Sifu Lau from the Mria Mesa location of my schools at an exhibition in China. He is doing a CLF drunken form. What I like about it is that you can clearly see the strikes in the form. A lot of drunken forms have amazing acrobatics, but the strikes aren't so clearly defined.

    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyh9-9bensQ"]kung fu exhibition south china - YouTube[/ame]

    Edit - ack, won't embed. Can some kind moderator fix that for me? Thanks!
     
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2014
  18. Shifu_HeZheYu

    Shifu_HeZheYu New Member

    The video wont play for me?
     
  19. hatsie

    hatsie Active Member Supporter

    Your lucky then
     

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