The recent conflict between Muslim and Christian ideologies in America

It's not a conflict between muslim and christian ideologies IMO. It's a conflict between two different bunches of tools. On the one hand we have a rightwing christian who doesn't seem to have a handle on the whole 'forgiveness' thing and on the other people who don't understand that, in a modern well run democracy we can't really just stop people doing something that's not illegal just because we don't like it. We can ask them not to, and Obama has, but we can't actually pull them off the street and hit them with clubs until they stop doing it- and it's about bloody time certain Islamic elements realised that.
Not that they're the ones at real fault here. Certain christians should start actually doing what christ said, rather than parading around being tools.

 

Eloquently put, Señor Errant. Eloquently put.

 

I really don't understand religious people getting all annoyed when someone burns their holy text.
Surely...if their world view is correct...that person will be punished by god to the highest and worse degree possible when they die?
You'd think they would smile knowingly and feel some sort of sympathy for the stupid actions of that person?

As I mentioned in another thread...you burn ANYTHING you are out of the debate.
Savanarola, the Nazi's, "offended" Muslims in the streets after any perceived slight, this pastor tool.
Burning something is not expressing a valid opinion. It's tribal and magical thinking that belittles humanity.

 

:topic: It is ok to burn those book just because they're crap though isn't it? Please say it is so. :hail:

 

I can't believe a self appointed pastor with 50 followers actually got the press that he did. 3 Afghan's died today protesting this idiots actions. I just don't see one bigot's 'bright idea' as news.

 

There is freedom of speech as long as you don't criticize people of other beliefs then the western one and as much as all you tree hugging Greene dogooders try to convince the rest of us that it is not true that is exactly the way that it is.

 

Grammar and punctuation are your friends. You don't need to be afraid of them.

There are all sorts of points of view on what's legal, right, moral and ethical in this mess and if it wasn't these 2 incidents it would be something else.

The Islamic community will take to the streets and burn their own houses and kill each other to protest some slight to their religion on a regular basis because their leaders incite them to do so. If not they might start asking hard questions about the way their country is currently run and why things suck the way they do.

In the US its not so different except for the burning and killing. People are being incited to protest and civil disobedience for trivial issues rather than asking the hard questions about the state of the economy, the deficit, the lack of sustainable economic prosperity rather than short term growth and our dependence of fossil fuels. :bang: BTW this is directed at both parties.

Sound bites and ignorance win again. I would really like to know where the adult supervision is.

 

So you spent more time at school then me, or you paid more attention, or your just smarter then me, whatever here is my middle finger for being a smart ass.

 

Your not a big fan of humor are you?

BTW, thanks. :evil:

 

Who knows how the other person perceives it on the other end of a key board, so my apologies if i took it the wrong way and yes grammar is not one of my strongest skills.

 

No problem. I'm the same way with spelling. Thank god for spell checkers.

 

well thank goodness we got that sorted out. It's bad enough with the fundamentalist tools wanting to kill each other without MAPpers falling out as well

 

You do realize that I am going to print your post and BURN it!

That'll learn ya.

 

I think he's suggesting that it's a shame we'd have to legislate that. Right or no, it's a pretty **** poor solution to the problem.

 

It's not the hate speech we are legizlating per se. For example "I hate people from Elbonia!" is completley protected speech. "Let's kill people from Elbonia!" is not. Hating is legal, acting on the hate is not.

Edit: Maybe inciting people to act on the hate would be a better definition.

 

No, I understand that. I'm saying that burning the Koran is a miserable way to commemorate the 9/11 attacks. It's not a solution. It's an expression, sure. But it doesn't improve anything.

 

I guess it makes perfect sense if you are a small minded bigot, but what do I know.

 

Well, I suppose it also makes sense if you truly believe that the worship of anything other than a Christian God is genuinely evil. I don't. So I find this idea of burning a Koran baffling and wrong.