The clinch

Discussion in 'MMA' started by Knee Rider, Nov 22, 2015.

  1. Knee Rider

    Knee Rider Valued Member Supporter

    Hey all,

    I'm looking for supplementary material on the clinch for MMA. Any recommendations? I'm looking for the most detailed and/or comprehensive stuff out there that is specific to that position. Preferably wrestling focused but not essential.

    Cheers :)
     
  2. Mushroom

    Mushroom De-powered to come back better than before.

    Randy Coutures Wrestling for MMA is good oldie book to read. You'll use like 3% of it though.
     
  3. Knee Rider

    Knee Rider Valued Member Supporter

    Cheers!

    Have you read Lindland's book?
     
  4. icefield

    icefield Valued Member

    Paul sharp and the singer brothers did some great clinch videos and dvds, also google Kenny Johnson and bolt wrestling his stuff is great too and there's some youtube basic clinch with him out there

    Old school stuff Dan Henderson bjj killer and randys clinch for mma is good basic stuff if its still around
     
  5. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    Greg Nelson's Clinch series is great. Very in depth and masses of material.
     
  6. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUa_SC0fxL0"]Thai Clinch Work with Greg Nelson - YouTube[/ame]
    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ymTkd2D5HY"]Greg Nelson's Clinch Volume 2 - YouTube[/ame]
    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iY0QtGfplU"]Greg Nelson's Clinch Volume 3 - Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]
    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMJ8Lgs_6zM"]Greg Nelson's Clinch Volume 3 - Part 2 - YouTube[/ame]
    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLRdCEldvDc"]Greg Nelson's Clinch Volume 4 - YouTube[/ame]
    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7oq_rN6PKM"]Clinch 5 - The Sources - Trailer 1 - YouTube[/ame]
     
  7. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    You will need to train how to get into clinch such as:

    - head lock,
    - under hook,
    - over hook,
    - arm wrap,
    - bear hug,
    - waist wrap,
    - single leg.
    - ...

    You will also need to train how to break a clinch. If you don't want your opponent to get a clinch on you, or if that clinch is not in your favor, you can use:

    - "捅(Tong) - shoulder pushing" on your opponent's shoulder to break the clinch.
    - "崩(Beng) - elbow cracking" to crack on your opponent's clinching arm.
    - "封(Feng) - waist pushing" to push on your opponent waist to remain distance.
    - "肘(Zhou) - elbow pressing" to press down on your opponent's clinch arm.
    - "夾(Jia) – wrist jamming" to jam your opponent's single neck tie.
    - "環(Huan) – neck surrounding" to wrap on your opponent's double neck tie.
    - "速(Su) – forehead pushing" to push on your opponent's forehead when he shoots in with head up.
    - "撳(Qin) - neck pressing" to push down on your opponent's neck when he shoots in with head down.
    - ...
     
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2015
  8. callsignfuzzy

    callsignfuzzy Is not a number!

    Lindland's book is really good for wrestling-style clinch. Anderson's book and video are pretty good for the Thai-style clinch for MMA. Couture and Dan Henderson had clinch videos as part of a "How to Fight and Win" series several years ago. Karo Parisyan has a book and video series that shows Judo moves from the clinch. Mark Hatmaker has a pretty cheap book on the subject as well.

    But what is it you want to do with the clinch? Are you looking to strike or go for takedowns? Are you trying to avoid takedowns? Do you have a background in wrestling, Judo, or MT?
     
  9. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    Randy's Train,fight,win series was really good, the special tactics disc was one of the best dirty boxing instructionals going. I don't think it's available any more though :(
     
  10. Knee Rider

    Knee Rider Valued Member Supporter

    I have a background in BJJ and Thai boxing both of which I continue to train. Just looking to develop my offensive wrestling (,which I train,) and like to have solid reading material for homework.
     
  11. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    Well Greg's a senior instructor under Arjan Chai, a BJJ blackbelt under Pedro Sauer and has a strong background in college wrestling (full scholarship) and Greco, so seems like the perfect fit.
    You can also check out Wrestling for MMA with Greg and Erik Paulson.
     
  12. Knee Rider

    Knee Rider Valued Member Supporter

    Thanks for the excellent recommendations throughout the thread, mate :)

    Have ordered dirty boxing by lindland.

    Will perhaps invest in DVD material at a later date!
     
  13. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    Let me know what you think of the book, I'm quite interested in it.
     
  14. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    Although I've just looked on Amazon and it appears to be out of print??? Second hand for £75 :(
    (on the plus side apparently my copy of Cung Le's San Shou is now worth £70)
     
  15. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool the merc with the mouth MAP 2017 Moi Award

    I've heard lindlands book is spot on, ill be getting it at somepoint myself.

    As your Manchester way, ASW has an open door policy, and has excellent wrestlers.

    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vzRDD3usFw"]Grapple Nation 1 Superfight - Kameron Atakuru VS Antony Jones - YouTube[/ame]
     
  16. Knee Rider

    Knee Rider Valued Member Supporter

    Got mine for £36! Last copy from seller.
     
  17. Late for dinner

    Late for dinner Valued Member

    You know, in this last exchange it's not clear which book is now not available.... let alone where :' P

    Clarifications please!

    LFD
     
  18. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    Dirty Boxing by Lindland.
     
  19. Ben Gash CLF

    Ben Gash CLF Valued Member

    Although Couture's wrestling for fighting appears to be out of print too, but there are still a few reasonably priced second hand ones available.
    My bookshelf could be quite valuable in a year or two.
     
  20. Mushroom

    Mushroom De-powered to come back better than before.

    Someone stole my HB Ung's Pak Mei - 9 Step Push. I got it for like £10 and apparently going for over £50 (last time I looked). Its only like 50 pages long too. Pretty much a pamphlet.
     

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