Takamatsu Sensei's Grave

Discussion in 'Ninjutsu' started by Fudo-shin, Jan 15, 2008.

  1. Fudo-shin

    Fudo-shin Valued Member

  2. Big Will

    Big Will NinpƓ Ikkan

    What the heck... no one took care of it??? :confused:

    Wow... this just blows my western mind away.
     
  3. Devil Hanzo

    Devil Hanzo Doesn't tap to heel-hooks

    Wow. Pretty crazy.
     
  4. whiteshadow711j

    whiteshadow711j Hiding in the Shadows

    So What Shoto Tanemura is trying to say is that Takamatsu's grave was moved or removed from the site he was laid to rest at and now it is a parking lot??

    WTF :mad: :eek:
     
  5. shadow_ronin

    shadow_ronin Banned Banned

    Doesn't bother me.

    I think it's a very ninja way to be forgotten.

    His legacy lives on in memory which is more important than a grave covered by a parking lot.
     
  6. KempoFist

    KempoFist Attention Whore

    So the grave was moved, or it was paved over??? If the former...then where is he now?
     
  7. Banpen Fugyo

    Banpen Fugyo 10000 Changes No Surprise

    What do you guys think he meant by this? I'm assuming he wouldn't just saying something like this for no reason.



    On a seperate note:

    has Hatsumi said anything about this to anyone?

    JW...
     
  8. Big Will

    Big Will NinpƓ Ikkan

    I'm wondering... why didn't anyone keep it? If Hatsumi didn't keep it, why didn't Tanemura? Or anyone else for that matter?

    I'm sure there are plenty who would...
     
  9. garth

    garth Valued Member

    I thought Hatsumi had tried to raise money to protect that grave site by asking Bujinkan members for donations. I though that recently a grave marker had been erected with the names of the 9 ryu ha on it.

    Whats happened :confused:

    Garth
     
  10. Senban

    Senban Banned Banned

    Garth said:-
    I think you're confusing the actual gravesite with the Takamatsu memorial. Seems that way at least.
     
  11. dra_uk

    dra_uk Lost in Translation

    A) It's spelled "separate"
    B) Nice of you to throw in a little dig on such a touchy subject

    You also could have added, "My Soke cares more than your Soke." :rolleyes:

    I'm constantly amazed by the pettiness on this forum.
     
  12. 2E0WHN

    2E0WHN Valued Member

    It has been said that a memorial is for people to go and see and to pay respect to. Soke Hatsumi never said where the actual grave was in case a load of "westerners" turned up while Takamatsu family was there. they were all told to go to the memorial instead.
     
  13. 2E0WHN

    2E0WHN Valued Member

    I do not think it is a dig about who is better. But I could consider yours to be pettiness regarding the subject and correction of spelling.
     
  14. dra_uk

    dra_uk Lost in Translation

    So what was the point of saying it, then? If it wasn't a dig then what was it precisely?

    Also, if one is going to start putting in little digs then at least they should spell them correctly! ;)
     
  15. garth

    garth Valued Member

    MWDAndy posted
    I possibly am. But it does seem a shame that Takamatsu's grave has (if its true) been moved. But I guess that land in Japan is very expensive. Its a pity that the grave could not have ben moved to a memorial site.

    But then i have images of students from the 3 X Kans all standing around the grave paying their respects.

    Which might not be a bad thing.

    Garth
     
  16. dra_uk

    dra_uk Lost in Translation

    For the record, my pointing out the spelling mistake was pedantry not pettiness! :p

    ;)
     
  17. Devil Hanzo

    Devil Hanzo Doesn't tap to heel-hooks

    He's in the Genbukan, his soke made mention of it, he asked if the soke of the Bujinkan has said anything about it to get more details on the matter. Considering Hatsumi has more to do with it than Tanemura, one would assume by common sense, that Hatsumi would know more about it.

    Seems like a legitimate question to me.
     
  18. elftengu

    elftengu Banned Banned

    If Hatsumi Soke (and the heads of the other X-kans to their respective followers) is the father of the Takamatsuden arts today, then Takamatsu Soke may be considered the grandfather of what we study today.

    A lot of people are moaning about the moving of a grave or lack of its upkeep, but be honest now, how many of you tend to the graves of your own grandparents?

    Do you see what I'm saying?

    I am ashamed to say I know which cemetary my grandparents are buried in but their graves are unmarked and I have no idea where they are within the cemetary. We should put our own houses in order before we start shouting about some grave of someone we never met in a faraway land. This thread has smelled like a smear campaign from the start but I wonder how many people are throwing stones from the safety of a glass house?
     
  19. Senban

    Senban Banned Banned

    Elftengu said:-
    Bingo. If, and let me stress the if without intending to cause offence to any party whatsoever, this story turns out to be true, then it is a matter to be dealt with by the surviving relatives of Takamatsu sensei and not by a bunch of people who saw a few minutes of grainy footage of the gentleman.
     
  20. Brian R. VanCis

    Brian R. VanCis Valued Member

    Bingo!
     

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