Im sorry Simonlarcombe for being as nasty as I was yesterday. I apologise sincerely. I just cannot agree with a lot of what you say though. In my mind no matter how high practicioners of any style get there will always be some who would want to prove it through fighting. Sure most like you said would not care less for comp BUT there will always be some who will. Also after seeing some Bagua competition clips I got from China I have to say there is a reason they are not in the UFC or Pride FC....they would get whipped badly.... Either that or the tourneys for Bagua in china are full of garbage players and all the good ones decided not to show up.
Go up against a high level mantis, CLF, Wing Chun, or any external KF artist thats been doing it long enough and the "advantage" internal has becomes non-existant... this discussion is rediculous. You are debating which of the two roads leads quicker to the same end result.. you're gonna get there regardless if you stick to it. So strap your panties up a bit higher and try a bit of tolerance/respect for your fellow Martial Artists.
Dear Sir, Interested to see you trained in Malaysia. may i ask where and who with? Best wishes Nigel Sutton
Everyone here is wrong. Wing Chun's mighty CHAIN PUNCHING owns ALL MARTIAL ARTS described herein, and hereout.
I'm sorry too, I didn't realise you were. Any style can become irrelevant in a physical confrontation, that wasn't my point. Apologies for being vague.
Ditto previous post. In reality, outside a ring, my original posts stand. I wasn't debating anything, certainly not which road'll get you there faster. There's a new toll road between Birmingham and Chester, if an articulated lorry jacknifed and stopped all the traffic, blew up and set 100 cars on fire, it would still be quicker (somewhat unbelievably) to take the M5. Who said I didn't respect you lot?
I trained with various guys in Sarawak, including the Grand Master and top guy in Aikido. No names, sorry.
So.. how does this get me to Dallas from Fort Worth faster? Or perhaps theres a new convinient split that I can use to get to 45 and shave some time travelling to Houston? Chester.. Thats in Virginia right? And Birmingham is in Alabama too!
ahh.. "..and so it is that the roads less travelled often provide the most pleasant and fruitful of journeys.." (in the style of monkey tv show voice over person)