killing the worms haha! salam/hello to all, interesting dscussion... i am in south africa, and i managed to travel a bit, and gathered some knowledge from silat via friends and colleagues i have met. my first encounter of Silat was when i was at a boarding school at the age of 15, and saw a student from Cocos Island practice Silat in the garden at later that 12am at night.. / morning... he taught me my first steps in Silat, and the name of that silat is still unknown to me. the silat we practiced was only done late at night, in the dark. from there i learnt the importance of lankah. i only learnt silat, and no adat and adab attatched to it. my teacher promised to teach me the name of the silat only once i completed it, but he left the school before teaching me theentire art. all i know is that it had much to do with "Laam Alif"... then my second learning came from Pukulan Melaka, a malaysian style to this day i have much respect for as i have learnt much of the adat and adab of Silat, which gives you a rough picture of what malay culture is. i have never been to malaysia, but i have lived with malaysian students in the middle east. this is where i learnt other forms of silat like RTD (indonesain - Radiasi Tenaga Dalam) which was more and only focused on breathing. it made me very tough though. In Syria, i learnt Harimau from Abang Zain from Sumatera, and also Setia Hati from a teacher who hails from Surabaya, indonesia. i didnt however complete these styles. i have been exposed to gayong eman, Silat cekak and harimau berantai from malaysia.. and learnt mostly silat from these people. that being said, i dont want to get into the political or religious debate. i know that i have been accepted as a student from many of the teachers just because i myself am a malay. some schools do not teach non-malays for their own reasoning and we just have to respect that. some would restrict it to muslims because the philosophyand spiritual teachings would not be grasped by the non-muslim. i would like to ask a question.. seeing that the issue of Islam and its influence on the malays and eventually their culture (silat), has any of the arab fighting arts been taught to the malays? when i read about the wars in the time of the Prophet SAW(peace be upon Him), it paints the picture that when the two opposing armies confronted each other, they would send their Best Warriors forward in a dual, and this would incite the Semangat on either side (depending on which warrior won the first fight), then another dual, and so forth until the armies decide to clash in battle... does anyone know more about this?