Standing JUDO is Kurash

Discussion in 'Judo' started by ravikurash, Jul 20, 2015.

  1. qazaqwe

    qazaqwe Valued Member

    Fair enough, it seemed like you were trying to push your style with some sort of angle to poach judoka, which seemed a little sleazy, i apologize for the misunderstanding.
     
  2. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

    I'd go to a few training sessions if it was around. I think the negative response is more to the suggestion that elite level Judoka would just put on a funky coloured gi and enter a separate sporting competition.
     
  3. ravikurash

    ravikurash Valued Member

    Holyheadjch, that was just a misunderstanding, I lacked in explaining. My suggestion is that all martial art should be categorized in one and all players should have the freedom to participate in whichever event they want to (subject to selection trial). I think this forum itself is vindication of my suggestion. This is one forum which holds all the martial art under one umbrella without any discrimination. Only politics discriminates, sports unites.

    Thanks for your interest in Kurash, maybe this link will be useful to you: http://britishkurashassociation.webs.com/
     
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2015
  4. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    There's always been active British judoka competing in kurash
    For example -
    http://www.matsumachijudo.org.uk/coaches

    And also BJJ, although a recent ibjjf rule change stopped judo blackbelts entering as a BJJ whitebelt, as it was deemed unfair and unsafe for the real whitebelts
     
  5. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

    I know Paul and he basically competed in everything involving a jacket.
     
  6. ravikurash

    ravikurash Valued Member

    That's great.
     
  7. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    And without it seems, with the freestyle and Greco.

    Iirc, Martin Clarke's lot who ran sambo in the UK also took part in the kurash back in the day.

    Ps that's from memory of reading combat and mai magazine back in the day.
     
  8. Mangosteen

    Mangosteen Hold strong not

    It looks very similar to georgian jacket wrestling (my SAMBO coach tells me) and it's probably a relation.
     
  9. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    The internet says its a precursor to sambo.

    But then again the internet says a lot of things
     
  10. ravikurash

    ravikurash Valued Member

    Kurash does not have any grading system. No belts are offered. So the reasoning of white and black belt does not fit here.

     
  11. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    How are competitions organised without grades?
     
  12. ravikurash

    ravikurash Valued Member

    In junior events its age and weight category and in senior events it's only weight category.
     
  13. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    That seems counter productive to growing and developing a sport...is there at least levels of ability? Win/loss record etc..?
     
  14. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    http://kurash-ika.org/en/pravila/

    "In open gilam (tatami) championship every wrestler fights to increase his/her sport qualification, title and experience."

    What is sport qualification and title?
     
  15. ravikurash

    ravikurash Valued Member

    Yes, we are developing grading system. And yes, we keep record of all events and you can check that on our website too http://kurash-ika.org/en/

     
  16. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    No submissions? Dissapointed :(
     
  17. Mangosteen

    Mangosteen Hold strong not

    its kind of like backhold. all these grappling styles are developed as training tools for warfare where going for a submission is longer than just throwing them and stabbing them.
     
  18. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    If we talk about combat and not just sport, the submission is not the only follow up after throwing. After you have thrown your opponent down, you can always:

    - drop knee on his chest,
    - drop elbow on his heart,
    - drop punch on his head,
    - step down on his head,
    - kick the back of his head,
    - ...
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2015
  19. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    Bit of a moot point if you are both unarmed and wearing a gi and fighting one on one :p

    Edit: on a separate note I watched a backhold wrestler and my freestyle coach wrestle backhold style. Backhold guy launched him a few times. Looks like fun!
     
  20. Mangosteen

    Mangosteen Hold strong not

    Not really, it's a different sport with different aims.

    We don't complain that bjj doesn't take weapons into account becaus Ethan's not the sport.
     

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