Standing Grappling & Throws

I used to like wrist locks off the figure 4 grip in BJJ. People seemed to defend the armbar possibility and forget the wrist was an option. I'd slide my wrist control hand down over their hand and cinch it all in to get the wrist. Never got them standing but got some on the ground from stalled armbar attempts.
Got (jokngly) called "king of the wrist locks" for a few weeks after catching some people.
And of course if you catch a wrist lock in BJJ you have to declare "Aikido wins!"

 

If I scream aikido kiai at people does that still count?

 

Interesting thread gonig on...so do you all study Taijustu...aswell as Judo etc? Or have you come from Judo / Bjj backgrounds and moved in to Taijutsu?

 

I used to be a Dan grade in taijutsu, I then picked up BJJ in addition, I ended up only training BJJ for several years, then started training Judo as well for a few years, and a little MMA too.

Most people on here have quite a rounded background.

 

I had no idea you did ninjutsu for a year?

I kid, I kid.

18 months?

 

Hey it was two years to judan, van donk took ages to cash them cheques!!

(I kid, it actually took eight odd years specific training to get shodan, it wasn't the Bujinkan!)

 

1990 is a long way back, congratulations for sticking the course! I think I started in '96 with the BBD, the dojo folded a few years after that.

 

BBD is still going through!

 

Yea, im still not sure how I feel about that, of its time it was good training, but Brian hadn't got the technical base to back up his fighting ability and grade, so he adds other stuff, isn't clear it's his own addition, and sometimes it isn't that good quality.

 

That goes for most Ninjas tho.....

 

I'd say the opposite, most ninjers can't fight, Brian can, hes just ran out of material to teach, it's like writing more books then you've read, generally it's a bad idea.

I've also met lots of xkan people who can fight, and have technical skill, I just didn't improve that well under the methodology.

I got jumped covering a class once by a new student who had obvious mental health issues, instead of using the material I had spent a decade training, I sickle swept them, took the back, got the RNC and then talked them down, that's what really changed my mind, when push came to shove, I had to know that what I was doing worked, so I only did what I knew I had already done hundreds of times before, Experience works.

 

This is the most I've learnt about you personally in 10 years of this forum

 

Im not one to talk about myself,
Unless its to the fourth wall of course!

 

Not to sound like an a jerk but the techniques themselves are not the point of ninjutsu ( i know this is not what you asked but it's on this forum). Lots of people that have left the Bujinkan are doing them, but they find they need a lot of force, to be stronger then the opponent, to hit, etc. The fundation is the actual base, structure (kamae, moving through kamae and the angles and positions it teaches you along with power generation and others) and through that, the movement that happens to apply this technique or the other. It's like asking a boxer how do you ever hit with a straight. It's not the punch that is difficult to learn, it's the application.

A wrist lock can be done 4 ways, by bio mechanics, but that is useless information if you don't know how to set it up. Surprise, taking of balance, are things within the movement; it's the movement that we learn, not the techniques (also this but this is simple). Even the very basic moves have this within them, move a bit back or forward, to the side, before doing the whatever...that is you taking away balance.

People that think they learned x move or y move about how to twist an elbow are missing the point. If you learn what you are told, you can punch, you can run, or..you can do that move. From punching to stabbing with a sward the move is the same. Because the body structure and movement (i know you are sick of hearing this) are so crucial, training with a Bo (long stick) is very important; every little mistake you do in structure is going to be mega amplified if you have a long stick in your hand.

 

^ these sorts of phrases are also uttered by people parroting the offical line who haven't got a clue how it actually works and have never had the experience of actually fighting someone.

Unfortunately they are still the majority in the Bjkn.

No offense, I'm sure your different, it's just the rest who don't get it.

 

They are the majority in every art.

 

Not in my experience, boxing, judo, BJJ, wrestling, MMA, all put out skilled individuals who can actually fight.

You used to train kyokushinkai didn't you?

What put you off training that?