In another thread we started discussing the similarities in Curriculum/Principles between GM LIM Hyun-soo's Jung Ki Kwan and GM KIM Yun-sang's Yong Sul Kwan. When I first started doing the Jung Ki Kwan material, it was a bit different than the beginning stages of many styles of Hapkido I had come across. Many styles of Hapkido teach “soft and flowing” in the initial stages of a beginner’s training where as the Jung Ki Kwan Hapkido starts off as a very "hard" style and then proceeds to the softer style. We started working with the opponent grabbing hard with some resistance, then we were expected to get into the technique without the usual "fake" or "softening technique." At first, this threw me for a loop because that was what I would have normally done if I felt resistance (without motion) or things were not looking in my favor. What we were getting shown right off the bat was how to "move from your center" to manipulate another person's center to get into techniques. Sounds pretty esoteric, but it was very simple once you understood what was going on. Bottom line… using the mechanics of your body to generate the strength instead of your arms and knowing how to apply it when compared to the physiological weakness of the opponent's action (i.e. method of the grab). I have often wondered if teaching this hard style in the beginning is something that is often done with students of CHOI Yong-sul’s. I have heard from other dojangs, such as from GM RIM Jong-bae’s that sometimes new people (with Hapkido backgrounds) cannot even get into the techniques because of the opponent gripping hard. This also happened at a GM CHANG Chin-il seminar with a mid-level dan student. GM Chang asked this person to come up and apply a specific lock on him that we were working on and the mid-level dan student could not even budge GM Chang. You could see the confusion in his eyes of, “should I even attempt to hit GM Chang to soften him up?” He then proceeded to explain how to "enter in" and "pull off" the technique without softening your opponent. That was an eye opener for a lot of people including myself at the time. So my question to those who know the Yong Sul Kwan Material is; does GM Kim teach in a similar fashion for beginning ranks? Thanks and looking forward to hearing from y’all.