Silat in West Mids, uk?

Discussion in 'Silat' started by BakbakanFighter, Nov 22, 2008.

  1. BakbakanFighter

    BakbakanFighter Valued Member

    Hi Guys,

    I study many different martial arts at the moment and I specialise in FMA. I wondered if anyone could suggest which style of silat would be good be for me to study? I know that some forms of silat use weapons but I am more interested in learning the interesting empty hand movements and striking. Also is there anyone teaching in my neck of the woods, ie the west mids. Thanks in advance.

  2. Gajah Silat

    Gajah Silat Ayo berantam!

    Are you going to the Black eagle gathering?

    If so I know someone who you should have a chat with.

    I'll PM you.
  3. crosstrainer

    crosstrainer Valued Member


    I tagged the same request (Silat instructors in West Midlands) onto earlier post on 'Effectiveness of Silat'. I can't pm as I don't have sufficient posts but can receive emails. If anybody does know of any instructors I'd be grateful.

    Thanks in advance.
  4. glendy

    glendy New Member

    Birmingham silat academy

    Hi Guys

    Just to let you know I run 2 Lessons a week in Traditional Harimau Pencak Silat. I have a pre class running at the moment before going into the main class.
    I am an apprentice instructor under Guru Paul Deans & Guru Mark Bloomfield In Yorkshire these are my core teachers. I have also worked with the Maha Guru Richard de-bordes & Besar Guru Randoph.

    I offer traditional Harimau Mingnangkabau Pencak silat On Mondays & Thursdays. I am 2minutes away from Junction 4 M6 Or 1minute from junction 9 m42. I have a small but dedicated family of players

  5. Gajah Silat

    Gajah Silat Ayo berantam!

    I'm not sure the forum mods will not allow the last post as it will be construed as advertising:wow: You might get a virtual slap on the wrist:rolleyes:

    (I'm sure you didn't realise this!!!)

  6. glendy

    glendy New Member

    Birmingham silat academy

    oh sorry i forgot about that got used to using the other forum. Just trying to help some one out
  7. Gajah Silat

    Gajah Silat Ayo berantam!

    Just didn't want you getting banned after one post that's all!
  8. Gajah Silat

    Gajah Silat Ayo berantam!

    BTW Graham,

    If Glen has trained under those guys he has very good credentials. I've only ever heard good things about the deBordes school, and I know 2 people that have trained with them. I think Pat O'Malley has also trained with them.

    Suppose, it depends on what you are after. Sumatran and Javanese silat are similar in many ways but also have distinct flavour of their own....of course as with FMA there are many variations depending on region and lineage(usualy family).

    Generally speaking, Sumatran/Minangkabau stuff is very low with highly developed legwork, whilst most Javanese stuff tends to be relatively more upright with more fisticuffs, elbows and locking. However, all silat has a lot of subtle leg techniques.

    Anyway, it seems that a number of FMA people have some secret silat too!
  9. glendy

    glendy New Member

    Birmingham Silat Academy

    Thanks for the kind words Gajah, but please don't forget when Maha Guru first came over to the UK he was also teaching 3 other styles Setia Hati (Java)& Jawa Barat (Java) & Sterlak (sumatra). The main core was the Lumphat Harimau style. After a time it was realised that it was better just to focus on one main style & introduce aspects of others styles later on.

    I think its also important to mention as well that in the late 80's the Maha guru was comended by his teacher Maha Guru Adityo Hanafi for adapting the system to the urban enviroment i.e concrete floors, stand up, closed in enviroment etc. We do have the conditioning for the legs & its plays a vitial role in the development of the Harimau player, but we play at all levels & ranges upright semi recumbant & ground.

    The silat we have is predominatley Harimau from sumatra, But maha Guru Hanafi's mother Ibu Hanafi was a very skilled setia hati player so the blend we have is both really.

  10. Gajah Silat

    Gajah Silat Ayo berantam!

    Hi Glen,

    I wasn't attempting to critique any system, just giving a very general overview of the main differences for Graham's benefit. I was referring to Minangkabau styles in general and not specifically Guru DeBordes schools. Apologies if I gave the wrong impression.:)

    Salam Hormat

  11. glendy

    glendy New Member

    Birmingham Silat Academy

    Hi Gajah

    No offence taken my friend. Some times you hear the age old myths about Harimau players is that we all sit on the floor waiting for the attack because we are a ground art,or that Harimau is bad for your knee's, well yes if you dont do the pre exercises before learning a new type of kick, or that we have no stand up or hand techniques.

    I just like people to get the full picture of what we do & in the words of Maha Guru Richard De-bordes "We not just sitting ducks you know"

  12. pammi

    pammi New Member

    silat in the birmingham area is also offered by nigel tropman at the mirfield centre which is a kali/silat class..
    excellent intructor needs to be checked out.
    thanx pammi..x
  13. saphai

    saphai New Member

    Glendy i am interested in coming to your classes. Do you have any contact details, and times that you teach.

    Thank you
  14. BakbakanFighter

    BakbakanFighter Valued Member

    Thanks for the help guys!

    Gajah / Glendy,

    A quick question for you, I broke my leg very badly some time ago and ever since certain things have been difficult. I can kick with it but weirdly cant skip! Figure that one out. I can cope with Muay Thai, but being up on my toes in boxing is agony. Yet I can train weights on my legs well.

    Do you think there are certain types of Silat I should stay away from? (I am just a little worried about the leg work involved)...

    Thanks for your help!
  15. bela diri

    bela diri Valued Member

    Hi Graham
    I wouldn't really know as I only do Harimau silat which is heavy on the legs. Some of the postures may cause your legs stress some won't. we tend to keep a flat foot on floor mostly if your bare footed, but I prefer a raised heel when using the upper art of our system. I know from experience that each injury is specific to the indivual person. So I would say try it if it hurts find a way to work around it.
  16. zairi faiezil

    zairi faiezil New Member


    I know Seni Silat what you learn?

    For my opinion all Seni Silat is a strength that even has its own distinctive art. Therefore you must learn the art of silat until the end. :hat:

    if you want to learn the art of silat art of dance and movement have empty hands I counsel Silat Seni Gayong Malaysia
  17. Tommy-2guns...

    Tommy-2guns... southpaw glassjaw

    eddie quinn, top bloke, operates out of solihull, i know him as my old Muay Thai coach, but he is also known as a top notch bloke in silat. he is a member on here (his name on here is Taksin) and also operates a system called the approach ( which i imagine is a mixture of his Silat and MT. from the site he says his silat is pencack silat fitrah, which i havent got a bloody clue about as he only taught me thai boxing, but top notch guy and i have no doubt his silat will be in every way as good as his MT.

    very nice bloke,couldn't recommend him more and if hes too far away from you im sure he will recommend someone good nearer your way.

    Good luck
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2009
  18. sardara singh

    sardara singh Valued Member

    Check out Sifu Dave Carnel he is Very Very good in Silat one of the Best in the United Kingdom I have done Silat Under His Wing check him out
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2010
  19. Pat OMalley

    Pat OMalley Valued Member

    Hey Graham, get yourself over to Bristol and train with Maul Morni he is one class act and his Silat will suit your FMA nicley.

    Best regards

  20. Pat OMalley

    Pat OMalley Valued Member

    You are correct I trained with the Tiger many many years ago back when they where inventing electric :rolleyes: Richard is the man as far as I am concered, I loved every hard minute of it, even when he smashed me in the nuts just to get me to put my hand in a certain place hahahaha. I also went to Malaysia back in 1987 and done some training there too.

    Done quite a bit of Silat over the years but it is not something I teach openly on a regular basis, I just show some of my guys if they ask. But there are a few top players out there now another is one of my guys Jon Broster.

    Best regards


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