Shinobi Soldiers

Discussion in 'Ninjutsu' started by Sandstorm, Mar 15, 2010.

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  1. Sandstorm

    Sandstorm Valued Member

    So I am starting to see these types of comments onyou tube now commenting on Bujinkan and Genbukan clips and having clips of their own from a group called Shinobi Soldiers and some of their followers. I also see the owner is somehow tied to the bujinkan in Amatsu Tatara. Anyone else seen these ideas of Shinobi Soldiers. I think its nothing new or nothing we have not heard before already.

    [ame=""]A Warning about Fake Ninja Masters - Shinobi Soldiers - YouTube[/ame]
  2. Hayseed

    Hayseed Thread Killer

    I can't really comment on his specific historical references as I've not read the Shoninki, Gunpo, or the Bansenshukai, but overall I would pretty much agree with alot of what he says about MA training. Although the religious attachment to "slow-mo training is the super best" I find grating.

    Having said that, the videos on his page of actual training just look like poor jujutsu. FWIW I think he should probably do a little more training and a little less intellectualizing.(Me too:cool:)

    I'm not a big fan of his attitude toward MMA, even if I may for the most part agree with his assertion as to the reason that TMA doesn't exactly translate to that medium. If more TMA people trained with the seriousness and dedication that you see from those training for competition, this debate about the superior effectiveness of either approach would be non-existent. There seems to be something about TMA that leads people to do alot more intellectualizing/philosophizing rather than spend their time on honest to goodness hard work.
  3. The Unholy

    The Unholy Banned Banned

    Didn't we do this guy a while back? IIRC, he had no time living in Japan or any test by the Japanese government on his Japanese ability but he was claiming to translate the Shoninki.

    His conclusions and such are rather silly in places IMO. His skill level is also pretty low as well. Didn't this guy basically just used to show up to Bujinkan classes and watch instead of train? It shows.

    Well, if he is the guy doing the Shoniki, I think I will start making my translation available to Bujinkan folks. More on this later.
  4. Ace of Clubs

    Ace of Clubs Banned Banned

    Don't, just don't.
  5. Sandstorm

    Sandstorm Valued Member

    Bingo, yeah Don,I was thinking the same thing about how he views things,I think he is somehow connected to Artenor and Creationsofmyown who are trolling bujinkan and genbukan you tube video clips but won't bring their opinions to real forums for discussion. Look here


    and here where his sidekick says hatsumi/takamatsu made everything up

    yeah these guys are somehow connected to the Shinobi Soldiers
  6. Manga

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  7. Dunc

    Dunc Well-Known Member Moderator Supporter

    He tried very hard to sell his novel to Bujinkan people, bigging up his association with Soke at the time

    I think he just needs a little more attention in his life and in my view he needs to train more before selling his stuff


    Here's the email he sent to Buj instructors:

    Hi I am the author of a new book on martial arts (and DVD Coming Soon), Called

    To Stand on a Stone

    50 Fundamental Principles for the Martial Arts

    (forward by shihan Dennis Bartram, head of amatsu uk)

    I spent a few years in Japan training under Hatsumi sensei and this book is a result of that,

    This book crosses the boundaries of style on concentrates on the body dynamics of martial arts. I was hoping that you would have a look at my web-link and have a read of the test chapter and tell me what you think?

    Read it here:

    If you like what you see you can buy it from this point. If you do choose to buy it I would like you to realise that the cover on the site is not the correct one. The real cover will be uploaded soon and you can see the correct cover at this link,

    I hope you like the test chapter and if you are a teacher or part of a group please forward this to your fellow members. I would like to know what they think.

    Thanks again

    Antony Cummins

    Join me on face book and add me as a friend so I can tell you about the DVD version when it comes out!
  8. Ace of Clubs

    Ace of Clubs Banned Banned

    I'm a writer and in the process of publishing my first novel.

    It just hurts me when other people get such poor writing published :mad:.

    Edit: Ah it's all coming back to me now.

    I remember this bs.

    Here is a youtube clip [ame=""]YouTube[/ame]
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2010
  9. EWBell

    EWBell Valued Member

  10. The Unholy

    The Unholy Banned Banned

    I'll do it! I'll just do it!
  11. Dead_pool

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  12. Dead_pool

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  13. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    Look who's opening a new school:

    ''Location: Stockport
    Are you serious about Bushido?
    Do you want to train in a traditional Japanese martial system?Do you live in the Manchester / Stockport area?
    Do you want to learn martial arts with dynamic movements and freedom of movement?
    Do you want to learn: locks, throws, breakholds, striking techniques, natural body movement, self-defence and esoteric teachings?

    If the answer is YES email with your details

    New school opening in 2010...

    The Dignity of Flying Birds
    School of War
  14. Dead_pool

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  15. El Guapo-san

    El Guapo-san Valued Member

    Shoniki's available in French.... it's a pretty good read, but nothing really like a densho.ôninki-Lauthentique-manuel-Natori-Masazumi/dp/2226183132
  16. poryu

    poryu Valued Member

    He bombarded me with emails asking me to advertise his novel in Hanako newsletter. By chance I found him on youtube (as well as having a dozen or more emails about him on YT).

    Once I saw his YT posts i decided not to bother with him
  17. JibranK

    JibranK Valued Member

    Is it a good translation? If so, I might want to give it a read.
  18. Hayseed

    Hayseed Thread Killer

    Do you get the impression that this is a person that is dedicated to anything but hearing himself sound wise?

    [ame=""]YouTube- Chapter 38 - 3D Movement (DVD OUT NOW)[/ame]

    If his Japanese is anything like his taijutsu, I'd wait for Don's version.
  19. Kogusoku

    Kogusoku 髭また伸びた! Supporter

    Wait for Don's version. 'Nuff said.
  20. The Unholy

    The Unholy Banned Banned

    Well, the first installment should go out on the first of next month. I am going to make a little newsletter for my club, electronic version. I will put in a section on the shoninki every month with commentary and the explanations of the background you need to understand what really is going on. You know, kind of like when you read something like Shakespeare and have all the notes and such.
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