Discussion in 'Kenpo' started by smelly feet, Sep 23, 2007.
Where does Fred Villaris Shaolin kempo Nenglis North & South come from?
Did Fred Villari make it up?
Fred Villari had a vision while eating a cheeseburger.....a cheeseburger of zen....
He was walking on the beach in the Caribbean, after getting his 4th dan from a Chinese master who would get ****ed if you asked him while style of kung fu he did but had no problem awarding japanese rank. The gang was made up of former 1 armed sailors.
he either made it up or one of his top students did, there are a few versions that i have seen and they do not match up with eachother.
If you search and are lucky you might find a thread where Al Cunningham relates a story of some of Villari's students studying for a while with some "Chinese masters" in Boston, then bring back what they learned to Villari and he incorporates it into his new product ,er, style.
That may be the source of the forms, I don't know if they learned the forms or if FV made them up from what they learned or what
^^^ I think the thread is on Martialtalk.com
I think you might be correct. The fun is in the searching LOL
It would not let me open the page.
cannot open it
cannot open it!
Can you copy and paste, or print screen?
These posts came from Alan J Cunningham on MartialTalk.com in the thread "Who is Fred Villari". Since I'm not interested in stepping on anyone's toes at this moment, if asked I will delete this post, but since they were also put in a forum that anyone can join, I'll post them.
I have a question about the name of this "Chinese Master " everyone was talking about, that they all learned from.
I wonder if someone can find his name and whereabouts these days.
Sounds like the story of Sho Tung Quak, except it was in Tibet...
Mr Cunningham's website is http://www.ckka.homestead.com/CKKA.html
In his picture gallery he is picture with a Hung Gar Master from Boston who is still teaching today, that's probably him.
In the mentioned photograph I am standing next to Sifu W.Ping Woo of the Hung Gar system. Sifu Woo did not train any from the early USSD or FVSSD.
One of the Chinese Masters that you are looking for is Sifu Yon Lee. His school used to be located in Boston's China Town, it has since moved and is now located in Quincy Ma.
The other Chinese Master's name eludes me at this moment. He did reside in Asia and did make annual visits to this country. When I can remeber his correct name I will post it.
sometimes the internet works as designed... experts share hard-to-find information. Where else would I be able to have discussions with 3 different "Grand Masters" (although they don't call themselves that) on one day
Thanks Mr. Cunningham
Master Lee & Tang Kwok Wah
Master Lee & Tang Kwok Wah 1974
Master Lee & GM Lam Jo
Thanks mr Cunningham!!
Where are your schools located today?
Also, does "The world Council of Soke" have an official website?
Separate names with a comma.