Scenarios....

Ok, lets start with a basic scenario. After so many answers to this, the scenario will be altered a bit and further responses looked for. Please remember although the scenario is not real, I would like to hear about how YOU would react in that given situation, with all your experience, or lack thereof

You are in a pub on a Saturday night with a couple of male friends. Its early so your not wasted (as yet). A lone drunk walks into the pub and saunters over to the bar. He eventually gets served and starts to spill his and others drinks over them, looking for trouble. Eventually this drunk picks on a lone male drinker, half the size of him. He spills his drink and punchs this bloke HARD for doing it to him. The assailant has got him on the floor about to kick him and you are the only person close enough to step in....What do you do?

1. Step in with your friends and get the bloke out?
2. Stand back so the drunk can get a better swing?
3. Call the police and hope they get there before he kills him?
4. Etc.

 

Well since you wanted me to, I thougth ide give my thoughts on this.

I think i would have to get my friends up and over to the guy and try to get him under control and then ask the victom what he wanted to do about it.

Good idea about the Scenarios

-Chazz

 

Leap out of my chair with a high pitched scream, kicking out the Light Bulb with my wooden leg, pause briefly for applause before dissembowelling him with my index finger!

If within range to stop the kick immediately ( potentially fatal ) I would try. Then, as the attacker is alone I would probably look for a lock or a pin to immobilise him until help arrived. Help not just for me, but help for the victim who is still in danger. Then deal with whatever happened next.

Scenarios are great Melanie, keep em coming!

 

Depending on the range, I would take his support leg at the knee with a low kick, follow with a strike to the ear, and if he was still able to move I would apply a wrist and elbow lock and seperate the joints in the arm.

 

Thanks fellas!

OK - a little change, the same scenario but as your all go to approach this gentleman he pulls a knife and threatens YOU not the victim with it. It's 4 inch long blade is serrated and he is still very drunk and pumped up.

What now?

1. Would you get everyone out of the pub, and give the man some room?
2. Break a chair, table, glass to have a weapon of your own?
3. Try to placate him and talk him out of doing it?
4. Etc?

Melanie

 

Maintain distance, try not to appear threatening, try to talk him down. If he became distracted, or I could distract him, I would take him out, but only of I was 400% sure of success. Very important that the knofe holder has a way out of the situation. Either by backing down, or leaving.

Alternatively, pull out a shiny pair of Butterfly Knives, grin wickedly and say ' That's not a knife'

 

Umm ok. First i would see if i could get to the person still on the ground and see if i could pull him out of danger. To the other guy, well theres a few this you could do i guess. Destraction seem to work the best sometime. Throwing a drink in his eyes, could cause enough of a destraction to over take him. I guess we all could say what we would do but that just might be a "heat of the moment" action *L*

-Chazz

 

I usually carry my cane everywhere with me, in which case I would strike his wrist with enough force to break it. then follow up with a strike to the head or solar plexus to incapacitiate. failing having the cane I would attempt to find something to strike with while maintaining distance. if he rushed I would move my body to avoid the rush and trap the arm, using a pressure point to manipulate and break it.

 

Ok - you have beaten him into submission - he's down and controlled.

Lets change the scenario once more!

The last scenario you were threatened with the knife, what if the victim on the floor was threatened instead. The assailant is kneeling down next to him with the knife next to the mans face. He threatens to cut him if anyone tries to stop him from getting up and taking this bloke outside and give him a good hiding (remember he is drunk!).

Do you let him get up and attack whilst he's moving?

The same again but make sure everyone in the pub is out of the way?

Attack as he gets up?

Or call the proper authorities?

What?

Melanie

 

The scenario is tough here Melanie. No-one would do anything which is likely to get another person disfigured or even worse. On one hand you can let the guy go outside, hoping random factors provide an opportunity to help. I would like to think I would be able to get him to pick on me, as I'm a bit of a short-****.

You mention calling the authorities as an option. I don't know about East Sussex, but up my way, the Authorities tend to wait round the corner to give out a parking ticket to the ambulance when it arrives

 

I really dont know what i would do. i guess i would try to get outside before he would have try to take him be surprise. Its really hard to say.

Chazz

 

Alot of factors involved here.... but I would not let him outside. Not with anyone with him. I would attempt to catch him vulnerable, either while rising or as soon as he faced away from me.

 

A knight in shining armour?

Ok - I pretty much have to agree with you here Waya.

Ok - one last change and then maybe another scenario...

Right from the beginning again. Imagine this time though that the person waiting at the bar is female though. This drunk bloke spills his drink on her and starts to wipe her down suggestively. She's alone and more than a little bit frightened so doesn't stop him. She basically ignores him whilst he's doing it, hoping her boyfriend arrives soon. The drunk doesn't get the desired reaction and slaps her to the floor. He doesn't care that there are people around and he starts to go to pick her up off the floor...

What now fellas?

Melanie

 

Tilt my Lance and charge. Lady in Distress. Have at you varlot!

You must go to some strange bars Melanie.

Incapacitate him immediately. what i would do would depend on where he was in relation to me, but a hard kick with the ball of the foot to the coccyx would be in order. To the layman this would look like a kick to the backside, but he wouldn't want to know anymore. I also think the chap should be held long enough that the lady in question gets the opportunity to retaliate. he certainly would be made to apologise while the authorities were sent for.

Then ride off into the Sunset on my white stallion. As the maiden watches with a tear in her eye.........ah.....The end!

 

If he was bending down to pick her up I'd grab him with a choke or head chancery and ask the young lady if she wanted to press charges, if so hold him until the authorities arrive (c'mon Andy Kilmarnock isn't that bad, oh wait, yes it is). If she didn't want to press charges and didn't want to retaliate herself I'd escort him to the door and tell him to go. If he didn't well that would just be stupid of him:woo:

Scenarios are a good idea. BRING 'EM ON

 

Thank you Freeform!

Thanks for your input. Come on everyone! This is a chance for everyone with little or no experience to put in a word or two about how you would react...

I have already got a few more ideas on what scenarios to do next and further follow-ups on this one. So far this is just a warm up!

A couple more perhaps and then I change the scenario a bit and start a new one completely!

Melanie

 

Malevolent Melanie......maelstrom maker! or mmmm for short!

 

Strike to the back of the neck or behind the ear, then apply a joint lock to the arm and seperate the wrist (not a good feeling). Then to agree with freeform, let her have her retaliation and hold him for the authorities or bounce him down the road.

Rob

 

Well first i would have stopped him while he was wiping her down. Most people can see what he was trying to do before he did it. then if he keeps coming back, a cood side kick to the belly of a drunk is always a good thing.

But back to the topic. If he went to bend do down to her. A good Ax kick to his neck or back could stop things. then ide send andy and waya to hold him down while i help the lady to her feet.
*LOL*

Chazz

 

Always the gentleman eh Chazz? lol