sup one of my sparring friends does aikido, i do TKD. But he says he cant join martial arts tournaments because its not allowed for aikido practicer's or something like that. Is there some code that you guys have to follow or do you just have to tell your sensai what he wants to hear?
Probably his kicks aren't good enough for a TKD tournament. Probably that's why he's not participating.
To actually answer the question. No there are no rules stopping him entering a competition. The only thing stopping him is lack of relevant training. The Bear.
I think that perhaps the OP's friend is dealing with two things: 1) his friend may be under the impression that there is no competition in Aikido... which there isn't except for the minority that practice competitive Aikido (Tomiki Aikido I think it's called) 2) his friends sensei may have some rule at his dojo that prohibits him from competing as an Aikidoka in a competition geared towards other sorts of arts. 3) his friend may simply be trying to save face by using his sensei as a reason - as in they backyard spar together and the TKD guy can't figure out why his sparring partner isn't allowed to compete in a TKD comp. Even more to the point... there are no rules in Aikido that say you can't compete in other style competitions... but I doubt there are going to be any sensei's that are amused that their students are competing in a TKD comp supposedly representing Aikido. I doubt the TKD set would allow anyone who didn't show up with a TKD club affiliation to compete anyhow. I can see the look of confusion when the Aikidoka shows up at the registration table and puts down that he's with an Aikido club and NOT a TKD club.
If I said there were no rules stopping any Aikidoka entering competition would I just be repeating everybody else? It's true there are no rules. But some groups and individuals see it as a taboo subject. Both the Ki Society and Tomiki Aikido groups have competitions. But so far as I'm aware they're nothing like a boxing match. Nobody gets KO'd.
I don't know much about it, but I'd suppose an aikidoka would be allowed to enter an MMA or UFC tournament. Correct me if I'm wrong. I think that there's rules in judo against using wrist locks, but that hasn't stopped my friend who trains in both (judo and aikido) using some aikido principles and techniques in matches (just obviously not the illegal locks).
IMHO, there are always rules of engagement for any context and usually those rules favor whoever set up the context.
There really aren't any tournaments 'in general'. Meaning that most will have a specific rule set. If it's Karate then it's a Karate ruleset... Judo.. a Judo ruleset. Etc. etc. You do have MMA tournaments... but frankly most Aikido practitioners are of a very different mindset than what you get in your average MMA gym. I don't really ever see Aikido holding a big presence in MMA... lol... for that matter any presence in MMA. That's not a slight against Aikido... I've trained Aikido (not to any amazing level) and have a lot of respect for it. But it's just two very different types of people that I dont' really see ever getting together and saying... yeah let's compete. What was the context that you asked your mate to compete in? Was it a TKD tourney?
I agree with that; for one, Aikido does not emphasise strikes & kicks, so any points system that rewarded those would favour the other art. I do a bit of Aikido, and think it is a perfect complement to Karate. But it's not a competitor.
we need a world martial art tournament (lol not dbz). seriously, all styles allowed no weapons. It should be in Cambodia or somewhere where there are not many safety codes. not saying a gladiator death to the finish, but maybe at the Olympics. instead of the TKD division. how about the weaponless combat division. besides its more about the fighter than the style.(as long as the style is a real one like TKD, Judo, aikido etc. pretty much nothing stupid like CARL-JUTSU)
There's always Jason Delucia! I think that's the second time I've said that this week. Jason Delucia: The Exception to Every Rule.
Hmm... but how much Aikido background does he have? How many actual distinctly Aikido techniques does he/has he used in an MMA format? I'd suspect that it's very little to none but I'm not familiar with him.
MMA DOSENT COUNT they are all muy thai/ TKD/ kick boxing/ and 90% jujitsu guys who dont look anything like cool fighters. seriously ive never seen a single jump kick or cross chop in MMA have u? i mean common their are no kung fu guys there, there are no really fast guys who jump around the octagon doing bad ass moves. we should just put jet lee in there. Make it actiony. ITS BORING ALL THEY DO IS WRESTLE, THATS ALREADY A SPORT AND WHATS WITH THE OCTAGON, HOW BOUT A GRASS FIELD WITH TREES IN IT who says it has to be in a ring. thats probably why it is the way it is. hell even a park would be a better place to fight then an octagon.
where are you going with this, jondo? or to rephrase in light of the forum we're in... just who's wrist are you grabbing?
RULES IN AIKIDO Rule (1) Do not get hit. Rule (2) Align the body Rule (3) Strike or cut the attacker off balance Rule (4) An unlimited responce to the attack Rule (5) Assert control over timing and distance. Basic principle Attack at all times show a superior fighting spirit dominate the fighting spirit of the attacker. Basic principle Fight only when necessary regards koyo
They don't look like 'cool' fighters because it just isn't practical to pull out all those crazy jumping kicks that are only ever seen in movies and TKD tournaments, of which neither relate to actual combat very well. There are a few Kung Fu practitioners in MMA but they have realised that in order to win they must drop some Kung Fu techniques and adapt other effective strategies, like GNP. As for the OP, no to my knowledge there is no such rule; as has been mentioned by everyone else. If it wasn't in a ring how would they separate the fighters and the crowd effectively? Besides, 'cool' is a subjective description, personally I happen to think that Mike Bisping is very cool
What do you mean with rule #4? Unlimited? I agree with the other rules though. I wonder if there should be a #6. Using just enough force to control an attacker, but no more then that, no further harm should be done to him? Or is that too aiki-fruity?
Fight only when necessary could be rule (6) Unlimited responce means technically. Strike throw pin sweep, whatever works.It is MOST difficult to use a control on a determined serious attacker therefor if need be ara waza (severe techniques) If your aikido philosophy is strong then if it fails it must be under extreme circumstances then the techniques MUST be pragmatic and effective. If the techniques of an art are ineffective I would question the philosophy behind them. regards Koyo
