A: Straw man (woman?) argument. Nobody's advocating any strategy that doesn't involve getting away at the first possible opportunity. This is common sense. B: Suitable for what? The crap about multiple opponents and etc. has already been adressed by people much smarter than either of us. It's going to take a lot of training to teach a woman how to beat a man period. BJJ is one of the most efficient routes to that goal because it's based on technique over strength and (more importantly, unlike aikido etc.) it actually works. Noone's talking about submissions and in fact you're missing the whole point. 75% of BJJ is positional control, exactly what woman need in that situation. That being said, if you have some skill in submissions, go ahead and break his arm with one. Also, not all submissions are complicated. Guillotine choke, for instance, can be taught in fifteen minutes and is a viable response from your back. First of all, let's address the petit-bouergois fantasies that most assaults on women are going to come from marginalized portions of society's criminal class. Wrong. More likely they are to be attacked by their own husbands, boyfriends, etc. If you aren't using technique then what the **** are you teaching? Seriously, what? Are you cosplaying as a systema instructor or something? I've won streetfights with pure sport BJJ. I've survived and come out on top against hardened white supremacists. I am a member of AntiRacist Action, a street level, working class, majority anarchist, antifascist crew. I've seen our women use very very basic BJJ to obtain dominant positioning on Nazi Skinheads and GnP them. Don't make assumptions. Yeah, because there's nothing in BJJ that involves a fat man sitting on you and squeezing the life out of you. Do you even do any research before you type or what? Edit: For the dense, i'll go into further detail. Fire-Fist earlier alluded to going to roll with the scary BJJ guys and being frustrated by his/her inability to escape (escape what is not mentioned and points to the possibility that he/she is one of those people who thinks that all grappling positions run together and are basically the same thing). I think FQ is projecting his/her inadequacy on the ground onto others, assuming that just because FQ can't do it, noone can, at least noone who's not a roidheaded macho freak. A: Noone's submitting anybody. You keep bringing that up, but that's actually a minority of what's taught in good BJJ. B: That being said, noone's still submitting anybody because we're not letting go when they tap but putting them unconscious, snapping their joints, etc. And before you ask, yes i've done it, yes he was bigger than me, yes I got up and ran afterwards. C: Finally, "proved useless" applies almost always to other martial arts: Aikido, TKD, Kung Fu, etc. It's very rare that we hear anything like that coming from BJJ. Quite the opposite, usually. And if he doesn't care if you scream? Seriously, what kind of upper class stepford wives are you teaching that they don't know to scream when attacked? I'll bet that was something they already knew and you are wasting their time. I wish there was an emoticon for the raw hatred I feel for the cliched survivalist rhetoric you bring up.