Psychiatrist "savagely assaulted" by psych patient/BJJ medalist

...Seriously? Are we going there?

 

It's in their guidelines, Dean.

He is just being responsible to the bujinkan as a whole. Just as SKH and Jeff Prather have been...

 

Do they define "mental illness"? It's a pretty broad term

As a side not I also wonder if "actions adversely affect others" would include to selling grades for cash.....

 

It depends on the condition, people with underlying aggression problems are not worth teaching. And people with learning disabilities need extra teaching before they are safe to roll.
A good coach makes sure training is safe.

 

Hahaha...the irony of the bujinkan barring people that are mentally unstable is just absolutely delicious.

 

That's just accomodation though surely? I have/had students with Aspergers, Autism, Depression, Anxiety and one with tourettes (twitch not language). All of these are Mental illness, but each has a different level of accomodating (if any)

The overt aggression tends to come from the "normals", who have an ego out of whack

 

Bang on with the accommodation.

And you dead right about aggression,
But some mental disorders are linked to emotion instability, ive worked in mental hospitals and theres some people you do not want having training, this goes for 'regular' people too.

 

True...the hardest fight I ever head was on a mentally ill crackhead in full blown excited delirium mode with faeces under his fingernails

Add the environment - public toilet with all teh taps running and 1/2' of water covering the whole floor and this was NOT a fun experience

 

I know it is but Dunc doesn't come across as being in the same category as the likes of Prather.

 

Hmm dodgy ground thinking of Aspergers and the like as mental illnesses.

 

Oi bugger off and leave us delusional paranoids alone.

Still annoyed i've never had a Hale Berry hallucination.

 

I should clarify - CLASSED as mental illness or impairment. Certainly there are behavioural keys and factors with people who have conditions such as Asbergers that need accomodating (literalism, difficulty with multi-tasking, unawareness of social cues etc..)

 

You been watching South park?



Assburgers had me in stitches.

 

I am SO leaving that typo in there.....

 

It is a autism spectrum disorder. And afaik is classified as a mental illness in the medical world.

For the sake of clarity I think its reasonable to include it in a discussion of martial arts training and mental disorders.

 

If anything it's neurodevelopmental, now whether you'll include that under mental health is another thing I think, I've known some professionals who probably wouldn't.

My reason for mentioning it is that within some sections of the AS community it would be somewhat insulting to them to say their character or self is a mental illness.

I don't disagree with what you say for sake of clarity but I do personally cringe a little when I know that some people will view traits as being an illness.

It's not a psychiatric illness although the deficits that accompany it can lead to such conditions, yes there is a variation in functioning but it's due to developmental issues.

 

Yeah, pretty sure it's not the done thing to class neurodevelopmental disorders as mental illness.

 

In classifying medical data - autism and aspergers are classified as mental, neural or congenital disorders (i cant remember which one).

Anger issues/disorders already established would be classified but actual aggressive behaviour requiring or during hospital stays would be classified on top of that (you might have a certain anger issue but it doesnt always surface).

If a person has an aggression related disorder, then they know about it and the only way they would know is through a diagnosis which means they are probably already receiving help so your discriminating against a person who is trying to get help.

If they are getting help then they'll probably disclose that to you before joining your MA class and you can make allowances for that.