Pressure points? Nonsense or Real?

while i do acknowledge that the translation is 'tender point' the actual original meaning is 'first second' but language has a way of evolving and i would have thought the word has evolved to mean tender point. but the actual meaning of kyusho is 'first second' which i think is important because the name of it is really what its all about

 

Source?

 

I've spent hundreds of hours watching material on this subject, i don't just make it up off the top of my head (like i did about chi)

 

I meant that - who or what says that, because even Kyusho orgs don't use that definition and it doesnt correspond with people who actually speak Japanese.

Of course it could be the same as the confusion around "kara" in "karate", but given that the overwhelming majority use kyusho to mean something other than "first, second" (which again in Japanese doesnt translate as "kyusho") i was curious as to the genesis.

I can find one "copy and paste" blog if dubious merit that referenced it

 

I tell a lie I have found another website thats a Dillman school...which instantly makes me doubt the translation

"Ichi byo" is one second in Japanese for reference

 

i don't speak Japanese, and also the word has probably been around for hundreds and hundreds of years and with hundreds of different dialects each with its own separate evolution i couldn't really say, but the man who i heard it from has been studying kyusho longer then I've been living, so i'll take his word for it

 

I posted a response above but I suspect he is wrong or else passing on what he has been told

"Ichi byo" is one second and "saisho" means first

So "saisho byo"

 

yes I'm passing on what I've been told, did you make up your own martial art?

 

Nope, but I have also been told wrong information over the years - like you likely have here

 

And the "HE" refers to the instructor you reference, not you

 

hi mate, where the first second thing comes into it for me is, say for example if someone throws a hook and you strike them on the inside of the arm on the p9 point high in the bicep, if the practitioner is skilled enough they could knock the attacker down with that blow, and give themselves time to get away from the situation

 

sorry not p9, its the

sorry not the p9 i meant the p2

 

I think it is taken as meaning "first second on the fight"

Again I reiterate this is absolutely not what it translates as

 

i'll be honest i don't really know about 1 2 timing I'm not familiar with that, but i was reading something you wrote earlier about striking from short distance, and that really fits in well with kyusho, because although its always good to hit hard with kyusho angle and direction are more important then power so it can be quick and sudden without any loading up of the arm

 

Cool, and has he got ''dillman'' lineage, or has he studied karate under a different lineage?

 

no thats cool man, from how i understand it it's quick, sudden for example if you've got your hands up in a passive position you're hands will be quite close to the attackers face, if your hand is out and say you have it in a dead pool hand position if the attacker goes to strike you you can hit them on say the gb 14 point on the middle of the eyebrow, and if it doesn't knock them out it will put you on the front foot, so all the most important stuff happens in the first second. having said that thats just my point of view from my quite limited experience, so i don't really have the right to go on about it because I'm not a qualified instructor.
thanks mate

 

please leave uncle George alone! just joking mate, to be honest i don't really know