Osu ?

Discussion in 'Ju Jitsu' started by righty, Jun 9, 2013.

  1. righty

    righty Valued Member

    .Does anyone have a literal translation of the term 'osu'? Sometimes people spell it 'oss' or 'ous'.

    This question is not restricted to JuJutsu but Japanese arts in general. Hell, I've heard it often enough from non-Japanese arts. But if you do answer this I'd be interested to know what art it comes from to see if there is a difference in usage.

    I have noticed some people using it more than others and the context behind it sometimes seems to lead towards a few slightly different meanings. But I haven't been able to find any sort of literal translation or use.

    The closest I have found is that it is a shortening of the term 'onegaishimasu' as a result of a bit of laziness and over-familiarity. But it's use doesn't seem to always follow that description.

    Does anyone know?
  2. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

    It's mainly used as a grunt of acknowledgment.

    I've heard it is sometimes used in Japan as like the least formal way of saying good morning.

    So you might say 'Ohayou Gozaimasu!' and the reply might be a heavily contracted 'Osu'.

    I expect that it is used as a heavily contracted form of Onegaishimasu as well.

    One thing most people agree on is that it is a thing that westerners do far more than Japanese.
  3. Dean Winchester

    Dean Winchester Valued Member

    In the Dojo by Dave Lowry covers this in along with other heigo (martial language).

    In general it is seen as being a contraction of ohayo gozaimasu or o-negai shimasu.

    Edit: Holyheadjch beat me to it. :D
  4. gapjumper

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  5. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

    If that's what the Kyokunshin community wish to believe, fine.

    It's a contraction of something, which if used pretty much anywhere but a Western dojo would be considered quite rude.
  6. Dean Winchester

    Dean Winchester Valued Member

    It's like "kree" in Goa'uld.

    Loosely translated it means "attention", "listen up", "concentrate" and maybe even "yoo-hoo".

  7. Dean Winchester

    Dean Winchester Valued Member

    It's also the name of a regional breed of horse commonly found in Dudley.
  8. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

  9. Aegis

    Aegis River Guardian Admin Supporter

    Careful, with that sort of language you'll have Frodo busting your door down in no time at all!
  10. gapjumper

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    It's not just a kyokushin thing.

    It is listed in dictionaries too. The dictionary matches that version. As an informal thing between good friends. Like "yo" or "dude" as your link states.

    I have never come across it in Japanese dojos though. But I don't go to kyokushin or similar dojos.
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  11. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

    I've only ever heard that interpretation from kyokushin people.

    But since not even the Japanese have a definitive answer for where it comes from, I'm not going to argue the point.
  12. gapjumper

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    Well I thought that was what the op was asking. :confused:

    The Japanese dictionary seems quite definite that is comes from oshi and shinobu as they are the kanji used to write it.
  13. Moosey

    Moosey invariably, a moose Supporter

    The best discussion I've heard of the term is from 24fightingchickens, as posted by holyheadjch, above.

    It's basically a macho grunt of assent. Kinda like a "SIR YES SIR" type thing in the US military movies.
  14. Fish Of Doom

    Fish Of Doom Will : Mind : Motion Supporter

  15. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

    Languages (especially Japanese) are more complicated than that. Osu is a verbal utterance. Just matching up kanji doesn't confirm etymology.
  16. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

    My dictionary has 'osu' as a reading of kanji for :
    To conclude
    To oppress
    To apply a seal

    Amongst many others.
  17. gapjumper

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    I was referring to the utterance. And dont worry, I am quite aware of the subtleties of the language.

    greeting used between close male friends, Hi!, yes sir!, yo!

    But never mind.

    Out of interest which word for hero is osu? I can see it as the reading for one of the kanji that make hero (the "male" kanji)...but not the whole thing. The whole being eiyuu or something. One way of reading hero is English Man. Hehehe :D

    But anyway, back to the op. Has that question been answered?
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  18. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

  19. gapjumper

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    I was using 英雄
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  20. Mitch

    Mitch Lord Mitch of MAP Admin

    This was very much the way it was used when I was training in karate.


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