I am not sure if this same thing happens in Genbukan. In the Bujinkan there seem to be a lot of sub orginisations. I mean, apart from the dojo. What is the story with this? Do the heads of these orginisations take fees aswell? Does anyone else think this is a bit strange? For example, the budo warriors group which was linked to in the most recent genbukan vs bujinkan thread. With 100s of members it obviously isn't a single dojo, and it is reasonable to imagine that the whole group has the same training ethic... Okay, so lots of people are unhappy with how the bujinkans training ethic varies from dojo to dojo, but that is the fault of individual instructors more than anything. It is just as likely that the head of a sub-orginisation will have bad training ethic as an inidividual instructor will... Is anyone else unsure how okay this sort of stuff is?