Order of Belts

Discussion in 'Ju Jitsu' started by Rob_InDaUk, Jul 9, 2003.

  1. faster than you

    faster than you Valued Member

    white, blue, purple, brown, black.
     
  2. Aegis

    Aegis River Guardian Admin Supporter

    Ahh, brazillian jujutsu, right?

    Or a similar grade structure anyway!


    Fanatical: traditional jujutsu doesn't even have the kyu/dan system. Traditionally they worked on a completely different system, which eventually led to the "grade" of menkyo kaiden being awarded to the student who had absorbed all the teachings of the school. The kyu/dan system of martial arts grades was invented by Kano in the late 19th Century, although it may have been in use for systems other than martial arts before then, I can't be sure without checking.
     
  3. faster than you

    faster than you Valued Member

  4. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Valued Member

    In the Scottish Ju Jitsu Assocation (SJJA) the Kyu belt colours are:

    White (yes white has to be graded for)
    Yellow
    Green
    Blue
    Purple
    Brown
    Black
     
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2005
  5. fanatical

    fanatical Cool crow

    I didn't really consider the oldest business. Dunno how much of that is in use today.
     
  6. Ghost Frog

    Ghost Frog New Member

    Ours is:

    White
    Yellow
    Green
    Blue
    Purple
    Brown
    Black

    LOL. What he said.
     
  7. kempo-kid

    kempo-kid Warning Dangerous

    Ok my style of kempo jujitsu goes as follows
    red
    yellow
    orange
    green
    purple
    blue
    brown
    black
    1st dan
    2nd dan
    3rd dan
    4th dan
    5th dan
    ect.
    KK
     
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2005
  8. nickh

    nickh Valued Member

    Quite a lot.
    Most of these styles use it:
    http://www.koryu.com/guide/jujutsu.html
     
  9. Trinity

    Trinity New Member

    The quote about having one belt and dying it is correct not sure who started it and not sure if its traditiional. I think Jigoro Kano when he started Judo invented the belt system but i am not sure if he had the one colour must dye into another. Anyways its not that much cheaper due to the fact that dye is so expensive.

    Belts that dye into each other.

    White
    Yellow
    orange
    green
    blue
    brown
    Black
    black
     
  10. Leo_E_49

    Leo_E_49 Valued Member

    For some reason, my Dojo doesn't even allow you to start out with a white belt. You have to GRADE for it! That's the SJJA for you...

    I personally reckon it's a good idea, why should people get a belt to hold their pants up when they haven't earned it yet? :D

    I think my belt system goes:
    None
    White
    Yellow
    Green
    Blue
    Purple
    Brown
    Black
    Red
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2005
  11. nickh

    nickh Valued Member

    Besides for belt colours, I'm interested to know how many systems also change uniform colours?

    What grade do you need to be to change from white trousers to black?

    And from white gi jacket to red?
     
  12. Aegis

    Aegis River Guardian Admin Supporter

    My style requires you to be a club instructor (1st kyu and above) before you can wear a hakama. Once you reach the senior second dan level (a teaching level rather than a true grade per se) you also get a sleeveless black jacket. Once you reach the dizzying heights of the guys who run the foundation, you get your sleeves ;)

    There are only 5 people in the Foudnation allowed to wear the sleeved black top, if I recall correctly..

    It's a weird uniform system, but it really helps determine who's who from a distance on the mat.
     
  13. nickh

    nickh Valued Member


    When I studied kung fu years ago, the grades used to work by T-shirt colour as well as by belt colour.
     
  14. Munen Mushin

    Munen Mushin New Member

    My school:
    White
    yellow
    Orange
    Green
    Blue
    Red
    2nd Brown
    1st Brown
    Black
    ect.
     
  15. gareth

    gareth New Member

    Hi there I just wanted to say that there is no right and wrong order for the belts in Ju-Jitsu neither in any other art.It entirely depends on the style , school and instructor.In my experience in the World Ju-Jitsu Federation ( which has now been for a number of years ) I have followed this belt order -

    Red
    White
    Yellow
    Orange
    Green
    Blue and White
    Blue
    Purple
    Brown and White
    Brown
    Black

    However this can change from place to place as I mentioned beforehand and anybody who sees the change as either inferior or inaccurate doesnt have respect for the martial arts systems that deviate from their own.

    The question is not the order of the colours
    The question is how practicle the art is in a fight situation

    Gaz
     
  16. Moony

    Moony Angry Womble

    In Aiuchi it's white Gi's all round. Anyone that is 1st Kyu or above and teaching a club gets to wear Hakama. At our nationals 1st Kyu's don't wear their haks, they also don't when ukeing in gradings.

    There's also a developing vogue by some of our senior instructors to not wear their gi trousers under their haks......which in its self isn't too bad unless they turn their haks in to nappies to do something and you get an eye full of hairy legs!!!

    Moony
     
  17. Ghost Frog

    Ghost Frog New Member

    We wear white or blue gis up to 1st dan then you can wear black as well. Dan grades don't wear hakama for training.
     
  18. Sever

    Sever Valued Member

    At my dojo everyone wears black gis (mostly because they look so cool ;)) and the instructor and assistant instructors wear black gi jackets with white trousers
     
  19. nickh

    nickh Valued Member

    Are red and white blocked belts as well as all-red belts (but double the width) much used in jujutsu?

    I believe that they are mostly used in judo to denote 6th dan and above, but I've seen old pictures of Takuma Hisa (of Daito-ryu jujutsu) wearing a red and white belt.
     
  20. Aaron Fields

    Aaron Fields Valued Member

    Kano added belt colors (white, brown, and black) to facilitate a method to tell where a student was. Remeber he was an educator and was trying to get judo into mainstream education. Kano was a big fan of John Dewey and was very much a man of the Mejo period.

    As to belt ranking there is no standard.

    Aaron Fields
     

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