one touch KO. Rubbish?

Ok Let me go on record and say i dont know much about internal martial arts. I studied Taji mantis kung-fu and tan-tui system for about 6 1/2 years. i did some chi cultivating exercises but nothing specially since i didnt sign up for the tai-chi class offered.

this video popped up in my youtube playlist and it looked super BS to me. seeing as ive seen tons of Martial artist fight of different generations, and skill levels. yet never seen anything like this.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2gs3V3C9Rs&playnext_from=TL&videos=H09_sSSv75M&feature=grec"]YouTube- One Move Self-Defense KO[/ame]

However before i make my full opinion im open to being wrong. So, is there any factual base to this? or is it just clever marketing.

 

that video consists of two things:

• acting
• unwanted touching

 

haha nicely done.:hat:

 

sounds like a good porn flick!

 

actually it could happen... especially if the kid getting KO'd is compliant like that. Even easier if he has no chin to speak of... a short sharp tap to the chin is what a KO is all about.

Now.. not that I think that's what's happened here... but the way the whole KO mechanism works can be a bit surprising... people can be KO's with something that looks like nothing. Also as an example you can watch a fight and a short right often times looks like totally nothing... yet KO's a guy... even worse if the camera angle is off... it can be even less convincing.

Again.. none of that happened here.. he's just touching up that poor lad. hahahaha

Something similar here:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8i3rYkiJLA&feature=related"]YouTube- Small Circle Jujitsu : Pressure Point KO from a punch[/ame]

I suspect if he is actually KO'ing this guy... the mechanism is the same as employed in an uppercut... when the head snaps back like that the whole issue of nerve in the back of the neck and the brain shuts off like a light switch. Why anyone would allow themselves to be KO'd like that in class is beyond me... why the instructor would do is also beyond me. Don't know much about the small circle guys but seem to remember some really bad press about them.

 

IMO, one touch KO is not good enough, our goal should be "一擊必殺 - one strike to kill".

 

At best, one-touch KOs require a compliant partner and a fine, precise attack on a very small point that is impractical/impossible in a fighting situation. At worst they are completely fake techniques developed by charlatan instructors looking to impress gullible students.

Either way, not worth your time.

 

I think one-touch knockouts make perfect sense... you just have to do them slightly differently than they're normally showed. For example, we've all seen videos of masters stunning their own students with a mere touch of a finger, but then failing to do the same thing on a neutral observer... This is because the students are more sensitive to the master's ki than the observer... thus a slight modification is in order to increase the amount of ki applied.
Rather than touching the observer with a finger, crack him over the head with a bokken (lacking a bokken, a baseball bat may be substituted). After this demonstration of esoteric power, none will dare question that you are one of the enlightened ones. :evil:

 

I saw a one touch knockout in person. A guy one-touched another guy with a bar stool behind the ear and he was out like a light....SWEAR TO GOD!!! (sarcasm implied)

 

I believe in one touch KO's.

Here's one...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhVi7cH-LaQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhVi7cH-LaQ[/ame]

One touch right?

 

Are you implying we should all study Shotokan????

 

What do you do when the situation calls for less than lethal force? How many training partners have you killed?

 

The way of the true warrior... only the strong survive. :evil:

 

I did a one touch knock out before. I hooked a guy in the temple and he was out for about 3 mins from just the one touch.

Funny thing is this was when I was younger and was fooling around a bit between drills in class. I wasn't even trying to actually hit the guy and landed with a partially closed fist. He kind of leaned into so really it was his fault!:evil:

 

This is a really good question. How do you train for "one hit, one kill", without killing your partner? It's like learning to ride a horse without ever getting on a horse...

 

I managed to tag a one touch KO once.

It was with a padded spear. It hit the guy to the left of the throat and basically just blew all the tissue out of the way as it passed through. It didn't break the skin but the shock of it dropped him on the spot. He woke up as soon as he hit the ground. It wasn't really a touch though. More like a harpoon or missile strike or something. It was a really solid shot.

 

IMO, no matter what style that we train, that should be the goal of our MA training.

If I tell you the truth here, cops will arrest me tomorrow morning.

 

I dunno dude, I always thought the goal of studying is to understand, and the goal of training is to develop. Some arbitrary feat like one hit kills sounds like a very shallow way to look at mastery.

 

Indeed. I thought that we train in the martial arts for self-improvement and self-defense, not to be able to instantly kill others with our bare hands.